Whatcha Sawin' 2020 ??

[tule peak timber]

Doc,
   Spot on, the high grade plywood is very stable-and strong.I answer to 5 folks on this job(2 designers,the contractor, the museum director, and an architect) and it is these people I need to please on Tuesday.
  I split this top into two man lift sections so as to get it out of the shop.There is also an additional 11 1/2 foot piece not shown with the 30 foot piece.
 Finish sanding is orbital to 220 grit and by hand pad for touch up.

[Bruno of NH]

With my 35 years as a carpenter. 
I would count on store bought lumber to be that close in constancy. 
I would ask for a specific mills KD as it was better than most.

[Patrick NC]

Sawed some yellow pine 2x and a poplar 8x8. 

[Patrick NC]

 

 

 Sorry about the double post. Hit the wrong button when I went to add pictures. 

[Don P]

This is a table that shows lumber dimensions for KD and S-GRN;
https://cwc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Lumber_Sizes.pdf

@WV Sawmiller remember that shrinkage does not begin until the wood is below ~25%mc so usually what we are sawing has not begun to shrink. Grain orientation, knots, trees don't read tables, etc, probably means more in final variation than how long it has been on the deck.

When the european framing first started hitting the jobsite there was quite a bit of variation from standard, they were using metric machines to hit our dimensions and weren't all converting the same.

[WV Sawmiller]

Don,

   Thanks. Part of my question came from the MM's frequent posts about milling beetle killed SYP which I assumed to be much drier than fresh cut SYP logs.

[WDH]

The wood from beetle killed pines is still very much wet.  

[btulloh]

It's easy to get caught up in radial vs. tangential shrinkage and all the variables, but I've sawed quite a bit of SYP framing lumber at 1/8 over on 2x4's and a bit more over on the width as I go up to 2x6, 2x8 etc. and it mixes fine with store bought lumber after it's dry.  I kind of had to tune in my chart at first for the wider stuff, but it all comes out fine now.  There's quite a bit of variation in the store-bought.  

One thing about rough-sawn off the mill is the square corners make it a bit more critical when framing a stud wall.  The radiused corners on the store bought make little variations like a little twist work better.  Just need to make sure studs are aligned properly on the sawmill lumber.  All in all, it comes out fine without over thinking the various shrinkage factors.

I prefer my lumber to the store bought.

[Don P]

We don't have syp, most of mine is poplar that moves more so I do SDR, saw-dry-rip. 2x10-12 can be a push at long lengths, its usually better to go a little wider than 10 or 12 to get a straightlined 9-1/4 or 11-1/4 in the end. The eased edge used to be an 1/8" radius on store bought, more recently you'll see 1/4"ee which I find tough to align, its too big. I suspect it was done to get around more wane restriction  :.

[LeeB]

Isn't the radius effectually the same as wane? Just looks better.

[Southside]

I believe the radius is also there as a method of slowing down the spread of fire.  

[Don P]

Breaking the sharp edge does help with fire but since framing is "protected" I don't believe that is the original intent. It saves your hands handling it. 

The eased edge is effectively the same as wane. The ee was limited to 1/8"radius previously and it is noted on the stamp when it is 1/4"... hmm I'll need to dig and see when and how they got that through.

[doc henderson]

Milled an ERC log with  @Cardiodoc  and nurse Tami, and Tom from the nursery.  Mike was requested to build a corner entertainment center by his wife.





 

 

 

 

  he will center on the wider 24 inch wide end, as the log was longer than needed.

[Patrick NC]

Nice cedar Doc. I sawed a cedar mantle today. A builder called me this morning kinda panicking because the guy that was supposed to supply the mantle dropped the ball. The realtor is supposed to close on the house on Monday and they were down to the last minute on getting finished. I had a cedar log in the reject pile so I dig it out and started whittling away and ended up with a pretty nice 6x8 that met their specs. 

Also sawed an 8x8x16' white oak for a customer today. Don't know what he's going to do with it, but he had cash. 

 

[Don P]

Sorry for taking us into the weeds, hopefully it'll be worthwhile for one or two folks. I was trying to find more on eased edges, I think I've seen the big radius on WWPA stuff, they charge for their grade book :. I checked SPIB and found this from the NGR definitions and interpretations section they posted, (NGR is the master book).

710 EDGE - There are three meanings for edge: (1) The narrow face of rectangular-shaped pieces. (2) The corner of a piece at the intersection of two longitudinal faces. (3) In stress grades that part of the wide face nearest the corner of the piece. (a) Eased edges means slightly rounded surfacing on pieces of lumber to remove sharp corners. The standard radius for 1", 2", 3" and 4" nominal thickness lumber shall not exceed 1/16", 1/8", 3/16" and 1/4" respectively. Note: Lumber 4" or less in thickness is frequently shipped with eased edges unless otherwise specified. (b) Square edged means free from wane and without eased edges. (c) Free of wane means without wane but has either eased or square edges. (See WANE definition.) (d) Square corners means without eased edges but has an allowance for wane in certain grades. (e) To "destroy the nailing edge" shall mean (1) the decay occupies more of the narrow face than the allowable maximum wane in thickness when in streak form, or (2) the decay occupies more than twice the length of the allowable knot hole when a spot occurs completely through the narrow face.

Here's a link to that document, starting on pg 25 is a good section on how to look at knots and slope of grain when grading;
https://www.spib.org/pdfs/NGR-Interpretations.pdf

[Magicman]

We had a good day today sawing 16'X2X6's and the end of the day tally was 168.  Not bad.   ;D


 
The 2X6 stack grows taller.  Probably won't add but one more lift.


 
The telehandler got it's hind legs off of the ground with the last lift. 

[Don P]

Looks like he boomed out to the pucker point  :D

[Southside]

If you are booming out slow enough there is no pucker, just a gentle ride until the load is down.  The trick is to remember which way to move the joystick after so the wheels go back to their "normal" position.  :D

On my Lull there is a typical load / extension chart, arches, degrees, weights.  Who has time to read all that?  ;D  What it lacks however is an image of 3 - 12" x 21' steel beams at full carriage and squirt boom out as being just over the tipping point!!  Learned that trick on my own!!  

[Walnut Beast]

With the extendable boom it's like magic in both ways with weight 😂

[Bruno of NH]

Sawing red pine 6x6x16 today and side lumber off the logs 1x4x16,1x5x16,2x4x16,2x6x16 and 2x8x16 it's for a tractor shed.
They are the customers logs he is a logger I buy from.
I like sawing red pine.

 

 

[tule peak timber]

Dog and pony show this morning with the designers and architects. A few changes, redo of the metal bowties, and some inlay changes- cut them out and replace with different grain structure.  Building by committee.

 

 

[doc henderson]

what are they pouring on your wood, what does the conveyor belt go to, and why do they not have sandpaper in their hands?  could teach some valuable lessons..  wipe on...  wipe off...

[doc henderson]

i know you have long hair, but when did you go blonde and start wearing all black?      :D :D :D  
the piece looks great.  

[tule peak timber]

These good folks turn up every few weeks to check on color, grain and eat a lot of my food :D the can is acetone to wet the material for a better visual inspection.
 I haven't shaved or cut my hair in over a year and my wife dubs me "cousin It" from the Adams Family. I think I look more like Gandolf from Lord of The Rings,,,personally. :

[Walnut Beast]

Can you show a picture of the metal bow ties your going to use and what was not liked of the previous ones