The Forestry Forum is sponsored in part by:

iDRY Vacuum Kilns


Forestry Forum
Sponsored by:


TimberKing Sawmills



Toll Free 1-800-582-0470

LogRite Tools



Norwood Industries Inc.




Your source for Portable Sawmills, Edgers, Resaws, Sharpeners, Setters, Bandsaw Blades and Sawmill Parts

EZ Boardwalk Sawmills. More Saw For Less Money!

STIHLDealers.com sponsored by Northeast STIHL


Woodland Sawmills

Peterson Swingmills

 KASCO SharpTech WoodMaxx Blades

Turbosawmill

Sawmill Exchange

Michigan Firewood, your BRUTE FORCE Authorized Dealer

FARMA


Baker Products

ECHO-Bearcat

iDRY Wood Lumber Vacuum Drying for everyon

Nyle Kiln Dry Systems

Chainsawr, The Worlds Largest Inventory of Chainsaw Parts





Author Topic: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?  (Read 374 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline EOTE

  • Full Member x2
  • ***
  • Posts: 125
  • Age: 67
  • Location: East Texas
  • Gender: Male
  • I don't suffer from insanity-I enjoy every minute.
    • Share Post
How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« on: February 14, 2020, 11:42:41 PM »
A lot of us on this forum are "older and (hopefully) wiser" and life has taken a toll on our bodies where we wake up each morning feeling like the tin man after a major rain storm or worse that King Kong did a tap dance on us the night before. We have to get out the oil can (medications and/or dietary supplements) and lubricate all the joints to drive away the rust (i.e. aches and pains).  So I was curious what others are doing or taking to minimize the effects of joint stiffness or chronic pain so we can go about our daily lives?

My story is that when I was young and foolish I used to jump motorcycles (think Evel Knievel style) which had a major effect on my back, knees, and hips.  On top of this my father owned an office supply and furniture store where I worked after school.  I always thought I was invincible and had to drag 400 pound desks up 4 flights of stairs by myself.  By the time I was 19, I had constant back pain and my hip joints would pop out without warning, leaving me doing a face plant.  By the time I was 21 I was working as a diesel mechanic and over the next ten years had a few work related back injuries as well as developing repetitive motion injuries.  This has followed me all of my life and now I wake up in the mornings and my back or hips will tell me "hey, you remember that time you jumped your motorcycle off that cliff?  I'm here to remind you of how much fun it was!"

So over the years I have begun taking various supplements like MSM, Chondroitin, Glucosamine, and fish oil as a way to deal with the chronic pains.  When things get really bad, I throw in a couple of Advil.  I've found that without the daily intake of these supplements I would feel literally crippled and unable to function normally.  I remember once I stopped taking MSM and after about a week I couldn't even walk a block without my hips and knees being in excruciating pain.  I do try to minimize the use of pain killers like Advil because I am concerned about the effect it could have on my liver and kidneys but as time goes on and with all the work I am doing to build our retirement dream home there are times I can't function very well without the pain killers.  Fortunately all my vitals are excellent and are the best they have been in 40 years so health-wise I am ok.  

Another thing I am encountering is leg and muscle cramps.  Certain activities bring on the muscle cramping faster than other things like climbing ladders a lot, or kneeling work.  Fortunately, I have been able to minimize the cramps with the regular use of magnesium malate/citrate and sometimes potassium supplements.  I also found these incredible natural remedy pills on the big A store that stop the cramps within minutes when they become severe.  

Oh, and what did my doctor recommend?  Oxycontin.  I tried it for a while but gave it up after reading about all the negative effects.
EOTE (End of the Earth - i.e. last place on the road in the middle of nowhere)  Retired.  Old guys rule!
Buzz Lightsaw, 12 Mexicans, and lots of Guy Toys

Offline doc henderson

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 3244
  • Age: 59
  • Location: Hutchinson, Ks
  • Gender: Male
  • Evil Prevails when Good Men Standby and Do Nothing
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2020, 05:29:03 AM »
calcium carbonate (tums) will stop cramps too.  I like you used to take Advil for all the aches and pains.  now I take 4 pills maybe 2 or 3 times a year.  I used to tell the neighbor, who had been a mechanic his whole life, " it will be a sad day for your family when all your aches and pains finally go away!"
timberking B 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor 12 volt tarp motor

Offline Ed_K

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 3069
  • Age: 66
  • Location: Leyden,Ma.
  • Gender: Male
  • Leave it better than you found it. Ed_K
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2020, 06:02:17 AM »
 Before I got cancer I used tyelonal quick release sometimes 2 at a time this was for 10 yrs before. You can take up to 6k mg no more than that a day. I didn't have any problems kidneys or liver damage. I did have problems with kidney stones but I believe that was from having Multiple Meyloma which dissolves the calcium in the bones and the kidneys grew the stones. But the Drs. I've asked this question all said "never heard of such a thing".
 Along with the supplements try eating pickles during the day or 2 Tbl spoons of vinegar mixed with 6 ounces of  water just as soon as you get a cramp.
Ed K

Offline square1

  • Full Member x2
  • ***
  • Posts: 217
  • Location: Central Michigan
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2020, 06:21:00 AM »
Low impact & isometric type exercise targeting the area that is aching. Problem is I'm having to add new exercises frequently  ;)

Offline doc henderson

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 3244
  • Age: 59
  • Location: Hutchinson, Ks
  • Gender: Male
  • Evil Prevails when Good Men Standby and Do Nothing
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2020, 06:35:59 AM »
@Ed_K recent recommendations for Tylenol (acetaminophen)  is no more than 4,000 mg or 4 g (same thing)  It is for sure toxic at levels of 10 g a day.  so 2 of the extra strength every 6 hours, or 2 regular strength every 4 hours.  Advil or Motrin (ibuprofen)  can be 800 mg (4 over the counter tabs)  every 6 hours.  You have to be careful if you are on ACE inhibitors and if you have kidney insufficiency.  we all loose 1% of our kidney function per year after age 40.  so if you are 80 and on an ACE, and you take a normal dose of ibuprofen, you could wind up in renal failure in a few days.
timberking B 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor 12 volt tarp motor

Offline Ed_K

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 3069
  • Age: 66
  • Location: Leyden,Ma.
  • Gender: Male
  • Leave it better than you found it. Ed_K
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2020, 06:59:56 AM »
 The 6'000 mg is what my primary care Dr. at the time 15yrs ago I think said to take. 6 or more hours between doses. 4'000 is better as less is better. I've been on lots of high power pain meds since being diagnosed with the cancer and I'm trying hard to lower the doses, at times I can totally stop the 2 low power meds with just taking the tyelonal. I can't take ibuprofen because of the myeloma.

Offline Nebraska

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 537
  • Age: 52
  • Location: God's country or pretty close
  • Gender: Male
  • I'm new! Lurked for quite a while, learning !
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2020, 08:27:05 AM »
Fish oil, trying to avoid gluten and milk proteins(it really seemed to help me I'm not perfect with it) and yoga ddp. Keep moving!

Offline Magicman

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 39194
  • Age: 76
  • Location: Brookhaven, MS
  • Gender: Male
  • A "Traveling Man"
    • Share Post
    • Knothole Sawmill
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2020, 09:22:24 AM »
The simple answer is Clean Living.

Avoid it at all cost!!   ::)
Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Offline EOTE

  • Full Member x2
  • ***
  • Posts: 125
  • Age: 67
  • Location: East Texas
  • Gender: Male
  • I don't suffer from insanity-I enjoy every minute.
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2020, 09:24:43 AM »
The simple answer is Clean Living.

Avoid it at all cost!!   ::)
I think that's what I did...and it caught up with me.  :D
EOTE (End of the Earth - i.e. last place on the road in the middle of nowhere)  Retired.  Old guys rule!
Buzz Lightsaw, 12 Mexicans, and lots of Guy Toys

Offline Sedgehammer

  • Full Member x2
  • ***
  • Posts: 229
  • Location: East central Oklahoma
  • Gender: Male
  • Old enough to know better, but ya only live once!
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2020, 09:34:34 AM »
Good question, I'm still searching. I take several ttpes of pain killers. All script based. Over counter no matter the dose is like pissing in the wind. Where i'm lucky i guess is i do have have an extremely high pain tolerance, so i've learnt to just accept it as my new normal and get on with life as best as I can. Got 2 little kids, so that hurts more, but also helps as it forces me to try and stay more mobile then I would otherwise most likely. 

Offline doc henderson

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 3244
  • Age: 59
  • Location: Hutchinson, Ks
  • Gender: Male
  • Evil Prevails when Good Men Standby and Do Nothing
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2020, 04:25:33 PM »
I think we learn to tolerate it.  I would much rather put a central line in an 80 year old lady than a teenage boy.  It is a 4 inch long needle going into the neck or under the clavicle or into the groin and pointed to the heart.  got the picture.  Little old ladies say things like, "so how many kids do you have Doctor".  tough.
timberking B 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor 12 volt tarp motor

Offline Old Greenhorn

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2367
  • Age: 64
  • Location: Catskill Mountains, NY
  • Gender: Male
  • An old coot, still learning.
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2020, 05:54:51 PM »
You're not kidding DOc. I had a few I treated that SHOULD have been screaming in pain, one I recall with a shattered hip. As we were getting her in a scoop stretcher and onto a back board, she said to me "Now don't hurt your back lifting me young man, I couldn't live with that!" I was 55 at the time.
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 450, 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) I mill for fun and my mental health. NYLT Certified.

I ain't the woodcutter, but I can cut wood 'til the woodcutter gets here. OK, maybe I am the woodcutter now.
I can work with wood, but I am NOT a Woodworker

Offline Southside

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 5795
  • Age: 47
  • Location: Wilsons (Dinwiddie County), VA
  • Gender: Male
  • Have a plan to saw every log you meet.
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2020, 07:20:13 PM »
Break something really, really, painful, makes the daily aches and pains rather insignificant.  
Franklin buncher and skidder
JD Processor
Woodmizer LT Super 70 and LT35 sawmill, KD250 kiln, BMS 250 sharpener and setter
Riehl Edger
Woodmaster 725 and 4000 planner and moulder
Enough cows to ensure there is no spare time.

Offline Old Greenhorn

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2367
  • Age: 64
  • Location: Catskill Mountains, NY
  • Gender: Male
  • An old coot, still learning.
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2020, 07:55:58 PM »
Been meaning to chime in here since yesterday. I too suffered from the 'getting older' stuff. Many, sometimes most, mornings I felt like I had to re-assemble my bones when I got out of bed. Lots of injuries over the decades were adding up. Last December ('18 ) I hurt myself running the mill, nothing special, but the pain was unbearable and I could barely walk with assistance. I finally broke down and asked friends to suggest a chiropractor. Dear friends gave me a name and said they thought 'he would be a good fit for me'. I had no idea what that meant, but I was in agony. I went, he fixed me, over a period of weeks and months. Turns out, he used to do construction, but his back problems took him out of the game and he began to study how to ease his own pain, eventually working through message therapist and becoming a Chiropractor (and a few other things I don't understand). This guy has found and fixed, or at least adjusted injuries from 30 or more years ago. I thought I would have to just live with it, but I have learned different. Now I just go once a month fro 'balancing things out' because I still do dumb stuff. These days I never have to think about getting out of bed carefully, I just bounce up. I have not felt this good or pain free in a couple of decades. I used to take Advil like candy, nearly every day. Now a small bottle lasts me 2 months or more. When I do over-stress my back I am usually back to normal by the next morning whereas before I could count on a few weeks of pain.
 He always asks what I am working on and wants to come spend a day helping with the mill. Tells me I am in better shape than almost all of his patients my age. I asked if he realized I was 32 years old. :D
 Anyway, this is what worked for me. 
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 450, 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) I mill for fun and my mental health. NYLT Certified.

I ain't the woodcutter, but I can cut wood 'til the woodcutter gets here. OK, maybe I am the woodcutter now.
I can work with wood, but I am NOT a Woodworker

Offline jb616

  • Full Member
  • **
  • Posts: 94
  • Age: 57
  • Location: Michigan
  • Gender: Male
  • Hobby Sawyer
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2020, 08:55:58 PM »
I also agree that regular visits to a chiropractor are beneficial if you want to minimize medications.  Once I got straightened out, i have a 1x a month "tuneup" visit. Another important thing is stretching. I stretch everything from my ankles to my neck every day. 

Offline Onthesauk

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 1038
  • Age: 74
  • Location: Mount Vernon, WA
  • Gender: Male
  • Still learning!
    • Share Post
Re: How do you minimize chronic aches and pains?
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2020, 10:56:51 AM »
I remember my Dad telling me, "You're Swedish, it's suppose to hurt."

John Deere 3038E
Sukuki LT-F500

Dont attribute irritating behavior to malevolence when mere stupidity will suffice as an explanation.


Share via delicious Share via digg Share via facebook Share via linkedin Share via pinterest Share via reddit Share via stumble Share via tumblr Share via twitter

xx
aches and pains!

Started by Butlerslogs on Health and Safety

3 Replies
804 Views
Last post February 19, 2015, 10:57:01 AM
by drobertson
xx
Aches and pains

Started by Sixacresand on Drying and Processing

5 Replies
789 Views
Last post April 02, 2014, 11:22:53 AM
by SPIKER
xx
Kerf cut to control/minimize checking

Started by Bucksaw on Timber Framing/Log construction

7 Replies
370 Views
Last post December 08, 2019, 06:02:13 PM
by Lyndaker
xx
Winter weather pains

Started by ahlkey on Forestry and Logging

19 Replies
3336 Views
Last post December 15, 2010, 11:16:29 AM
by SwampDonkey
 


Powered by EzPortal