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How do you fill your fuel and LUBE jugs/tanks?
« on: March 03, 2020, 05:50:42 PM »
I realize that probably most of you simply remove the sawmill fuel jug. but I do not.  I fill it in place every evening.

I got interested in this topic because of my recent shoulder surgery and an additional 4 more weeks of having the arm in a sling and immobilized. Whether the jug is removed or left in place fueling the sawmill was going to be a challenge.

Some Google searches led me to buy this: Harbor Freight 12v Diesel Transfer Pump An online 20% Coupon knocked it back to $104.00

I wondered about the 3/4" hose, but I should not have been concerned. It immediately pressurized the hose/nozzle and emptied a 5 gallon Diesel can in the advertised 30 seconds!!  :o
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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?I
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2020, 06:04:41 PM »
My LT 35 doesnt have a removable fuel tank.  It has a metal enclosure around the poly tank.  So I have to fuel on the mill.  Even lowering the head still means holding the fuel can at chest to shoulder height.

I can see how shoulder surgery would be an impediment to lifting 40 ish pounds to that height.  I dont have experience with the HF transfer pump but it looks like it would fit the need.

Hope you are healing well.
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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?I
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2020, 06:07:01 PM »
Interesting.  Good solution.  I'm sure your shoulder will appreciate the new method of fuel handling.

I have a very similar pump I bought at TSC a few years ago (without the hose).  It's worked well for me, but I need something like that for gasoline as well.  Seems to be a bit harder to find something in that price range that is rated for gasoline.

Anyway - nice upgrade and good report.  Hope your wing keeps getting better and you can resume all your normal activities ASAP.
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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?I
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2020, 06:29:04 PM »
I climb up a ladder about 2.5 ft and pour in 2.5 gallons per trip in my 6 gal tank.
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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?I
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2020, 06:51:03 PM »
   I normally remove my fuel (Gas) tank to fill it but when mobile I sometimes fill it on the mill at the gas pump going or returning. I like the system you just bought. I wonder if the make a hand pump/squeeze version for gas? Looks like it would be a reasonable item for someone to design?

  I do know if they make these dang gas cans any safer we will never get a gallon of fuel out of one of them. >:(
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2020, 06:54:22 PM »
The single most dangerous part of my operation is the refill. LT-10 with small koler engine and needing to pour through the screen filter out of a can that needs pressure to release the flow (new idea good, usability stinks).

Every time there is a random flow that pours everywhere and I am waiting for the one time it ignites...if anyone has an easy fix for this I am all ears.  Also will keep my gloves from stinking like gas on cleanup.
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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2020, 07:08:48 PM »
The only thing that I know of to help gasoline users is a hand operated pump.

I am excited about this Diesel Pump because it will also come to my rescue when filling the tractors.  I fill everything from 5 gallon jugs and now they can sit on the ground and let the pump do the work.  ;D
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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2020, 07:16:52 PM »
I sometimes use a hand-start siphon pump to transfer gasoline from my 15 gal tanks to 5 gal and 1 gal tanks. I place the 15 gal tank on the FEL to elevate and let gravity do most of the work. The siphon pump must be held open with a handle, and can be shut off by releasing the handle. I have not had any issues with spillage (yet).

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2020, 07:36:30 PM »
For the gas guys
I use a wheeled gas caddy that has a hose with hand pump.
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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2020, 07:41:48 PM »
I take the spout off my gas jug for dummies and the neck of the jug fits the neck of the tank.  I just pour the fuel without that press to pour useless spout.  I spill far less fuel using my method.
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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2020, 08:24:52 PM »
There is a seller on ebay that sells fuel tank spouts that use a length of rubber fuel hose.  May be an issue if you have fuel tank police bugging you.  I think I have about 8 or 10 of them for different uses.  

The ones for Midwest jugs work the best because you can reuse the gasket that came with the jug, and they go around the aluminum turned part that goes under the cap.  I ended up having to make some gaskets for my older jugs where the gasket sits completely under the machined aluminum part that goes under the cap.

I thought I had some better pictures of the Midwest jug setup, but didn't find them. This shows the spouts on the jugs sitting on the ground.  They're much more spillproof than "spillproof" spouts.   You can more easily lower the jug while the spout is still in the fill neck, regardless of how much fuel is still in the jug.

They also come with a vent.  I put two vents on my diesel fuel jugs, and it does run out a lot faster.

I can't remember what they cost.   They weren't cheap, but I think around $23.  I've had them for some number of years.

edited to add:  They're kind of hard to find on ebay, but copy, and paste this in the search box there.  I have no connection to that seller other than spending a couple of hundred bucks with him.  You need to see his other items if you have a different brand of gas can.  If you are going to buy a can, get a Midwest.     SPOUT FITS BRIGGS & STRATTON WEDCO GAS CANS, FOUR GALLONS PER MINUTE FREE SHIP


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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2020, 08:39:52 PM »
Since my mill only holds 1.5 gallons I let the head all the way down and fill it from a 2.5 gallon metal safety can with a funnel attached to the can. The metal cans are more expensive,  but a lot better than those new plastic spouts.  

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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2020, 09:51:30 PM »
MM, where did you get the 20% off coupon from?

Nevermind. Found it:

https://go.harborfreight.com/coupons/2019/08/20-off-any-single-item-at-harbor-freight/

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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2020, 10:48:16 PM »
If anyone needs a nice 100 gallon tank, on a cradle that can be lifted with a single chain hook on a loader bucket, and a 12v pump with service station type nozzle, I have one that I'm not using.

It's been under a shed, but probably has some 20 year old diesel fuel in the bottom of it.  I used it back when I did a little real estate developing, but haven't needed that much fuel at one time since then.

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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2020, 11:12:20 PM »
I did all the maint. on my sawmill and log splitter yesterday.  makes you nervous to get gas on your hands and clothes and poss. make a spark.  be careful.  also does anyone know how to prime a new fuel filter with the "in and out" opposite each other, for small engines with 1/4 inch fuel lines, without it being 1/2 full of air?  I tried everything, but submersing it.  they work fine, but it looks wrong!
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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2020, 11:17:43 PM »
On a gas engine, like my Kohlers, I have never bothered to prime one, just let the pump pick it up and yes it looks half empty all the time. 
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2020, 11:28:45 PM »
Tom King,
 I would like to come get that tank from you, but it will be a little over 3 months.

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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2020, 03:57:47 AM »
I'm sure you guys with bigger mills have air compressors nearby, could you make a cap that has a hole to push air in and a sealed hose to the bottom of the jug?

Heli guys used to fuel from drums like that out in the field with a hose off their bleed air, pressurising the whole drum and pushing fuel out through a hose. But the top of the drum would sometimes pop out from pressure and fire the drum cap that was accidentally placed on top of it (which you never did but, one day you did..) up through the rotors so it got old pretty quick.

Even a sealed jug with a tiny grommet you can insert a duster gun into works, I've used this to fuel tanks with no fuel caps in models.

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Re: How do you fill your fuel jugs/tanks?
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2020, 05:08:10 AM »
Lynn I have a 12volt pump as well , on my overhead fuel tank. We used to go gravity but the newer tractor is the same height and took forever to fill. Got it from the local co-op store.
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2020, 05:23:21 AM »
We use the same one when we can't get the pickup and transfer tank close enough.  I was tired of spilling fuel and having my lunch spoiled by the smell of fuel spilled on clothes or boots.  I don't care for diesel...but use quite a bit of it.
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