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Offline Bruno of NH

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Equipment moving question
« on: March 09, 2020, 06:07:02 PM »
Equipment moving question
The Farmer I saw things for went and picked up my 974 bobcat.
He won't tell me what to pay him.
He said he's never done it for anyone before.
It was 72 miles one way.
So he went 144 miles
Around 4hr total of his day when all said and done.
What should I pay him ?
I want to be fair.
I don't want to be know around town as the cheap fat guy that owns the sawmill :D
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2020, 06:24:08 PM »
I would guess between $300 and $400.  

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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2020, 06:45:18 PM »
$4/mile to $2.5/mile of transport.  Don't count round trip.  We pay about $250 to ship a skid steer 100 miles but we ship often.
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2020, 07:26:23 PM »
I would guess between $300 and $400.  
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2020, 07:28:01 PM »
$300.00 CASH
$400.00 CHECK
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2020, 07:32:44 PM »
I was thinking $300 cash 
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2020, 07:34:57 PM »
$400.  With short hauls you normally pay hourly for all hours. Last week we paid $150 / hr to move an excavator about 50 miles one way. Semi with detachable low boy trailer. 
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2020, 10:41:59 PM »
In trucking for hire only the loaded miles matter and hotshots are cheap because many are competing for loads, rates are down now.  About $2mile for generic untarped flatloads.  Short runs will get into the $3/mi range so someone actually bites. 

But buddy deals are different. $300 is fair, $400 generous.
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2020, 11:24:44 PM »
Mike, what's the best way to go as far as getting a loader brought up ? Slasher on a trailer from TN- NC ? Which is the best place to look ? Rough idea what it should go for a mile ? 

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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2020, 12:00:26 AM »
There is a difference in waiting for someone to get a load and having someone go play fetch too. 
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2020, 12:23:24 PM »
BargeMonkey--Just had a 11000 lbs skid steer delivered from PA.  Bought at on-line auction.  The site had numerous moving co's listed.  They are actually brokers ($ 80 - 125 fees) who find equip movers.  I was put on "heavy equip electronic board" but it was taking too long for me so went with another broker who put me on "car/other electronic board" and winning bidder I accepted was a hot shot mover for $800.  Had an F550 with 40 ft trailer.  Delivered the next day.  Just over 400 miles, so like Mike Belben wrote 2˘ a mile untarped flatload.  Thought it was an OK deal.  You probably know all this stuff but in case not, hope it was helpful.   
Bruno of NH--Nice looking skid steer beast.  One reason I got the Takeuchi TL 150 was cab room, and it's also a beast!
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2020, 07:44:21 PM »
Mike, what's the best way to go as far as getting a loader brought up ? Slasher on a trailer from TN- NC ? Which is the best place to look ? Rough idea what it should go for a mile ?
Its legal dimension and only needs air hooked up right?  Is it a dayton spoked,  flat, dryrotted tire piece of crap or pretty decent looking?
Thats a power only move. Tons of guys do them and they may be fairly cheap if the machine looks like it can go over the scales without being put OOS.  You could either find a power only company or you could have any broker post the load to DAT or ITS [load boards] as a power only job and let the trucks in the area call in to bid.  Upfront youll have to decide what youre willing to pay max and i think $2 a mi [or maybe less] should get it home pretty easy. Broker keeps the difference between what youll pay and what the lowest truck who will do the move accepts.  I have used jon at JRC in connecticut to find me a truck for my crawler loader before and hes been a broker for years. 860-729-9134
 Now as soon as you have to put an oversize flag on and get permits that price goes way up of course. $2 kinda the okayish rate for flatbed. Rates are starting to climb and will continue especially as spring dries out and all the manufacturers get rolling.  Sooner than later if you want a cheap haul. 
There are tons of knucklebooms around peachland NC, mt gilead/troy NC,  moncure NC,crossville TN, red boiling springs TN and all of S. eastern KY for sure. Throughout georgia as well. The rural southeast is all buncher and KBs, tons of them. 
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2020, 07:13:39 AM »
I'm having a 9500# tractor moved from Arkansas to Vermont for $1750,distance of 1400 miles.
I used fr8star to solicit bids,there were 2 @ 1750 then to 3200.
Short hauls in N.E. are another matter.
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2020, 10:25:15 AM »
Old fashion hand full of cash never goes out of style.  $300 is a good number.

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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2020, 01:41:23 PM »
I have a friend that does dirt contracting and I asked him how much to move a 10000# mini excavator and it was $100/hr, starting from leaving his yard.

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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2020, 07:05:36 PM »
I'm having a 9500# tractor moved from Arkansas to Vermont for $1750,distance of 1400 miles.
I used fr8star to solicit bids,there were 2 @ 1750 then to 3200.
Short hauls in N.E. are another matter.
Thats $1.25 a mile headed northbound to a deadzone with no backhaul freight.  This indicates that the two desperate bidders wont survive long unless they smarten up.  


Cost to operate a truck comes out around $1.20-1.55 a mile long term.  You can only operate at break even for so long.  


Im driving out of the everglades empty right now because the rates are terrible.  The customer who wanted us to come in had to pay a premium to account for that.  
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2020, 09:03:15 PM »
Your maths is right, but with a bidding site like that it's likely someone has bid low to complete a load. If he can haul 2 tractors for $1750 each.... 
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2020, 09:44:25 PM »
Its possible this person is hauling partials.. They can work.  but it is a pain, especially with brokered loads.  No broker wants to play second fiddle and they call you constantly.  

 I moved a lot of my own stuff by booking a good partial then filling empty space with my junk.  I love being second fiddle if it means free transport.
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2020, 04:29:15 AM »
I hear what you are saying, but I often see a tractor on a flatbed, along with a couple of pallets of random something and a packet of lumber or something identifiable. 

Figure he's dropping off at 3 different places, and each load is paying a % of the trip. 

Running a trip with a 50K load truck with 9K onboard makes no sense. (unless you are back hauling and would otherwise earn zero) 

The logistics of organising and combining those different loads is where the Internet comes in. 
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Re: Equipment moving question
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2020, 05:45:59 AM »
The tractor I am having moved is coming on a 53 trailer which leads me to believe there are multiple units being hauled.
Mike is right.Vermont is a deadzone for hauling freight too,but us residents like to think of it as a little more lively than that :D
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