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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #660 on: July 31, 2020, 10:53:41 AM »
Sedge hammer, ill mute you. You were warned once. You YOU caused the other topoc to be moved to restricted. I WONT move this one but I will handle those Individuals that disregard admin decisions, and to be moved from regular forums means moved out of the forum or lose the ability to post or correspond 
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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #661 on: July 31, 2020, 11:28:32 AM »
I will apologize for contributing to the drift/debate.
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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #662 on: July 31, 2020, 11:29:55 AM »
Me to. Sorry everyone. 

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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #663 on: July 31, 2020, 12:26:25 PM »
Thank you guys. Carry on.
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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #664 on: August 01, 2020, 03:10:05 PM »
An office assistant came to work after developing symptoms AND getting a Covid-19 test. (I know there will be some posters who relate how foolish that was. She, and everybody else knows.) 2 days later her test came back positive.  Office "cleansed".  Risk assessment performed by Infection Prevention.  They stick to the CDC's 6-15-48 rule.

You have to be within 6 feet of the infected person, for 15 minutes, and have this exposure occur 48 hours before they developed symptoms, or after.  I was within 6 feet, for about 5 minutes, and she had already developed symptoms.  So I do not check all the boxes for a high risk exposure.  No one in the office checked all the boxes.  So the office is still open, with much more stringent behavior by the staff.

I, however, have voluntarily quarantined myself.  I get a test on Tuesday.  Testing too soon after an exposure give false negative rates close to 70%.  It's not a lot of fun not seeing anybody.

What was most illuminating about this incident was the info from the Infection Prevention nurse specialist.  She says there have been multiple similar exposures across our health system.  She says the dynamic is always the same.  Medical office workers are friendly and familiar with their co-workers, and virus related behavior is not well practiced.  They eat together.  They trust each other.  They hate talking on the phone while wearing a mask.  And they often have to jump up from their desk to put out some fire somewhere.  In other words, they behave in many ways like the pandemic isn't there.  The nurse also said that the office personnel always assumes that any viral risk to them will come from the patients. In her experience, the virus exposure usually comes from the office staff.  So we are our own worst enemy.

I am on day 5 and feel fine.  I get tested on Tuesday.  If negative, I can start inhabiting the other half of the house and go back to work, assuming no one in the office develops symptoms.
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« Reply #665 on: August 01, 2020, 03:43:54 PM »
@doctorb 
I can see that. Or I should say I do see that. When I went in for my initial appointment, I saw that in the clinic. Some of that behavior is really, really hard to change.
Good your not seeing any symptoms.
My wife's experiences are she always finds out several days later. The office has to call past seen patients to even find out. There is no back tracing or care to. It has been as long as 10 days until patient finally returned calls. Management expects staff to get tested on their own time & dime. 
Clinic is setting up for blood testing. That'll be interesting. She's already working 10 to 12 hours a day. 
I did get my blood tested when I donated before my surgery. They won't show that in your account like they do the cholesterol & PSA. They mail it. 14 to 21 days later. 

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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #666 on: August 01, 2020, 05:38:51 PM »
@doctorb it's time for you to start practicing for retirement anyway!
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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #667 on: August 01, 2020, 07:00:56 PM »
all of the employees at our hospital that have tested +, got it from friends and or family outside the hospital.  so far!
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« Reply #668 on: August 01, 2020, 07:13:30 PM »
all of the employees at our hospital that have tested +, got it from friends and or family outside the hospital.  so far!
That's good and bad! Shows you're doing a great job there anyways. 

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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #669 on: August 02, 2020, 09:15:57 AM »
Old habits are hard to lose, Yesterday friends dropped by on thier way around the lake. I buy beer from the local micro brewery in "Growlers". I pulled a plastic cup out of the cooler and there was a bug or something in it, I blew it out and almost poured his beer in, whoops, The GF saw it and made a comment. So I retrieved a clean cup and poured him a beer. We had a good laugh, but it shows how simple it is to slip up. 
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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #670 on: August 02, 2020, 01:31:32 PM »
Something made the paper yesterday and it brought up something that was mentioned on one of these threads. They were warning about methanol in some of the hand sanitizer on the market now, be especially cautious of sanitizer coming out of Mexico. Methanol, wood alcohol, will go through your skin and can cause headaches etc, blind or poison you.

In other news one of the local nursing homes has had 131 cases, staff and residents. I noticed in the classifieds that they are hiring and offering a $5k sign on bonus.
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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #671 on: August 02, 2020, 02:51:13 PM »
hazard pay.  Our hourly rate was reduced 10%.  Lots of things are true, and you can get toxic on alcohols, but with limited use prob. a theoretical.  but lots of good ol ethanol, and isopropyl as well.  I use denatured for my cookies (wooden) and never think twice about pulling stuff out with my hands..

ps the ethanol has to go on the outside of the hands to be effective, not consumed.   smiley_beertoast
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« Reply #672 on: August 02, 2020, 10:20:10 PM »
@doctorb it's time for you to start practicing for retirement anyway!
I was, and still am, practicing for my retirement.  Was originally scheduled for April Fool's Day this year.  My wife and I had multiple trips planned to search out potential relocation areas, if we decided to do that.  We will definitely downsize.  Kids are gone.  House and 34 acres are too big.  In January, my daughter let us know that she's getting married this coming December.  Didn't seem to make much sense to move out of our current house into a new one while planning a local wedding.  So we decided to stick it out for one more year.  
Then the coronavirus showed up. Put a stop to those exploration trips.  Also put a stop to moving out of this house for the foreseeable future.  So......retirement is approaching, but in a very different way than we had originally planned.
Day 6 and no symptoms.  
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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #673 on: August 07, 2020, 02:10:30 AM »
This is an analysis of the current situation here in NZ. What was done to control the virus, and some planning around what to do if it gets lose again. There is a chance that may happen as folks are still returning home with the virus, but so far that's been caught in the quarantine. Staff at the quarantine hotels catching it is the most likely vector. Precautions are taken, but nothing is 100% with this virus. 

It's written by some University professors that are on the committee that's advising the Govt. Interestingly there is consideration about using masks next time as they may help. Research previously was "mixed", so they weren't recommended, but the consensus seem to now be that they will do more good than harm. That's the scientific evidence, not a political decision. 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/122375799/100-days-without-covid19-how-nz-got-rid-of-a-virus-that-keeps-spreading-across-the-world
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« Reply #674 on: August 07, 2020, 03:32:44 AM »
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« Reply #675 on: August 07, 2020, 10:46:06 AM »
Tested Day 8.  Negative result returned Day 10.  No symptoms.  

Back to "normal", whatever that is, and I'm on call this weekend.
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« Reply #676 on: August 07, 2020, 03:04:31 PM »
 Having a negative result is wonderful but having to go back working in it must suck. Did they recall you to work because of the virus?
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« Reply #677 on: August 07, 2020, 08:42:32 PM »
Our largest christmas tree grower brought up about 400 workers this past week, 102 new cases. Luckily he caught it immediately on arrival, seperated, quarantined and got the health dept involved. He has enough quarters to keep them isolated and will do frequent checks. Sad thing is it has apparently caused some problems in a few local stores not wanting to let any of them in.

I heard the US has 4% of the world population and 25% of the worlds deaths, not exactly the position of world leadership we should have.
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« Reply #678 on: August 07, 2020, 09:47:01 PM »
some places are nearly spared.  and some places the people have no rights, so no debate over staying at home, social distancing, or wearing a mask.  i am sure that communist countries with dictators can nip stuff in the bud, much better than we can.  Freedom comes with responsibility. 
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« Reply #679 on: August 07, 2020, 09:50:15 PM »
WoW, awesome reply @doc henderson 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻


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