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Author Topic: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.  (Read 73036 times)

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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #2020 on: February 22, 2021, 10:45:21 PM »
Hope everyone gets back on their feet quickly there YH.  
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« Reply #2021 on: February 23, 2021, 01:52:32 AM »
God speed!
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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #2022 on: February 23, 2021, 05:08:11 AM »
YellowHammer, my heart goes out to you and hoping for an ultimately good outcome for you. 

It seems so unfair that this would happen because youve spent almost a year now being a model for how to conduct a business and stay in covid compliance. 

Virtual hugs. 
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« Reply #2023 on: February 23, 2021, 07:50:08 AM »
It seems so unfair that this would happen because youve spent almost a year now being a model for how to conduct a business and stay in covid compliance.
Thanks, the only consolation we have is that we are very happy about the high levels of the precautions we took for our business and customers and how it successfully protected our business customers from any possibility of getting it.  We are certain that absolutely none of our customers were exposed to us and Covid at our business.  We actually proactively planned the get together to occur after the last open day of the work week.  So from exposure to positive tests, less than a week, we came in contact with no customers.  We took, what we thought were reasonable precautions at our get together, but they were insufficient.  However, the precautions we took to protect our customers, (by appointment only, on Fridays and Saturdays) actually worked perfectly, as we were completely isolated during the time period from exposure to positive test.  We are happy about that.  

This simply follows our philosophy to provide a safe shopping environment for our customers.  Our business precautions worked and we are very pleased we did not put any customers at risk.


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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #2024 on: February 23, 2021, 08:02:44 AM »
I was a bit "uneasy" last evening and began noticing a soreness behind both eyes.  That and with the lymph node soreness, I gave up and went to bed at ~9:00 last night. 

This morning all is good.  The eyes and the lymph node soreness is gone.  PatD's wrist are also OK this morning. Both of our arms are still a bit sore but not as much as yesterday. All is good. 
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« Reply #2025 on: February 23, 2021, 08:45:49 AM »
My wife and I have gotten the first hand opportunity for a direct comparison between the Covid vaccine and Covid itself.  We are some of the unlucky ones who got the virus between vaccines doses.  Actually, we probably had the virus when we got the vaccine shot, but it was still too early to show symptoms.  Poor timing on our part.  

The vaccine was unpleasant the next day.  

Covid has been unpleasant for both of us for almost a week, so far.  We seem to be doing OK considering, with mild to moderate symptoms and ebbing back yesterday to mild. But take it from me, the vaccine discomfort is not in the same league as the disease itself, at least for us.

Anyway.  We had an infected pre symptomatic person in a small group, who had not had a vaccine.  My wife and I had not had a vaccine.  Two other people in the group had the vaccine, one of which was my 80 year old, high risk mother.  The other had the virus several months ago and still has a currently strong antibody presence.

So, six people, two of which were vaccinated, one with immunity, and three not vaccinated.  ALL three unvaccinated persons are currently Covid positive, and working through the illness.  ALL three of the protected persons have been tested as Covid free.  Thats pretty easy math in the six person unintended Yellowhammer trial.  

Me - Unvaccinated - currently Covid positive
My Wife -  unvaccinated - currently Covid positive
My oldest daughter - unvaccinated - Currently Covid positive

My mom - vaccinated - not infected
My Stepson - vaccinated - not infected
My youngest daughter - strong anybodies from former Covid - not infected.  

Draw your own conclusion as to the effectiveness of the vaccine and the contagious nature of Covid.  And yes, we let our guard down for an instant, and are paying for it.
A man!, Well I am hoping you get through this as gently as possible. I will be thinking about you, keep us all in the loop, will ya?
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« Reply #2026 on: February 23, 2021, 12:55:51 PM »
Hang in there, sorry that worked out that way.  ::) nothing like lousy luck.  I hope by Fourth of July this issue fading into the rear view mirror.  Wishing you guys a speedy recovery. 

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« Reply #2027 on: February 23, 2021, 06:11:48 PM »
Sorry about the bad luck, YH.  You weren't the first nor will you be the last to get the vaccine while positive for Covid without knowing it.  Get well soon.
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« Reply #2028 on: February 23, 2021, 08:29:09 PM »
When I made Reply #2024 this morning, I had no idea that I would do anything today, much less saw!!  So I gave the vaccine a run for it's money and I guess that I came out ahead.  Well at least I did not conk out on the sawdust.  ::)
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« Reply #2029 on: February 23, 2021, 09:41:04 PM »
Hope you and your  wife  have a speedy recovery YellowHammer.  Still can't find an open appointment for my wife and I in our area. All I am seeing is check back in April. 
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« Reply #2030 on: February 23, 2021, 10:06:23 PM »
 I don't know what Fauci is talking about, in Idaho, they never shutdown, and most of Eastern Washington is back open, but I guess batten down the hatches...

https://www.theblaze.com/news/fauci-vaccinated-people-cannot-dine-indoors
""So there are things, even if you're vaccinated, that you're not going to be able to do in society: for example, indoor dining, theaters, places where people congregate," Fauci said.
"That's because of the safety of society. You, yourself, what you can do when you are together with another person, we are looking at that, and we're going to try and find out very quickly what recommendations could be made about what people can do," he added. "

less than 50% of the article.
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« Reply #2031 on: February 23, 2021, 11:00:41 PM »

A little update and maybe some useful information.  

First, the Covid isnt fun.  Im down 13 lbs body weight, but not doing bad. The symptoms we have are like a common cold x 10, that just linger.  I do have a case of the Covid tongue, which feels like Ive licked the lint trap in the clothes dryer.  Its a fuzzy feeling reaction people sometimes get when the virus replicates on a persons tongue.  I got out of breath and tired walking a few hundred yards to the barn today, but at least I felt good enough to go outside in many days.   

My wife was not doing as well, some deep coughing yesterday, getting us worried, and her doctor got her into the Huntsville Hospital Covid Monoclonal Antibody Infusion Center.  It is specifically authorized for mild to moderate Covid patients, before they get seriously ill, of a certain age or pre-existing  condition, and involves infusing man made antibodies directly into the patient to aid the antibodies being produced but of insufficient quantities by the patient.  There is a certain window in time in which they must be introduced, and in some patients, reduce the progression of the disease and subsequent hospitalizations significantly.  The nurses said that most people see a remarkable rebound within 48 hours, although sometimes as little as a day.  My wife, who was getting worse, had them infused into her arm during a 45 minute IV session yesterday morning, and remarkably, was feeling significantly better already today.  Amazing.  The drug is called bamlanivimab.

In our case, it worked well and quickly.  I made a comment to the nurse about how she must be glad she is young and doesnt have to deal with this garbage, how Covid would just bounce off her and she said in June she almost died from it.  She was doing OK, but about the 7th day, her O2 levels dropped suddenly, she spent 3 days in ICU during which she underwent respiratory arrest, had no prexisting condition she was aware of, and was only 26 years old.  She is fine now





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« Reply #2032 on: February 23, 2021, 11:12:40 PM »
Thanks for the update YH.
Scary how the unknown creeps in and can affect any of us so quickly.
Take care of Martha, and yourself too of course!
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« Reply #2033 on: February 23, 2021, 11:22:50 PM »
Oh, I forgot about the vaccines we got.  Wal Mart in this area offers them, (soon to be nation wide) and I couldn't ever get an appointment though their online appointment scheduler, because it was always full.  

So here's a tip----thats where I learned they reset and open their next round of daily appointments every midnight by computer.  So we set our alarm for 11:55 PM, fired up our iPad, and by 12:05 AM we both had appointments scheduled.    

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Re: Just the Facts, the Crown virus.
« Reply #2034 on: February 23, 2021, 11:38:51 PM »
  I am surprised with this "Check back in April" kind of comment. I'd have thought they'd just put you on the list for the next available slot based on your reported age and health issues to determine which group/priority you were in. I don't know how they are running their appointments or such but our state gives us the option of signing up on line or calling an 800 type number and either way they put you on the list. I signed up on line then my wife called hers in right after and within a couple weeks we got a call and set up our appointment for yesterday and they said we have the same time 3 weeks out for the second dose but also said they would call. I usually hate state level and above politicians but I have been well satisfied with what I have seen here so far. (I can't believe I actually said that. ;)) Actually as I understand we are now in the "Anybody in the state can call in and get on the list".
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« Reply #2035 on: February 24, 2021, 11:05:57 AM »
glad you guys are hanging in there.  the monoclonal antibody is directed against the spike, that is needed to attach to cells for replication.  so it needs to be done in the first 10 days as the virus is replicating.  My wife works for Walmart, and she is having meetings about the vaccine, but they do not have enough everywhere.  supposed to start here in 2 weeks now, as of the meeting this am.  Many recommend to wait 90 days after you have the virus or monoclonal antibodies before getting the vaccine.  good luck!
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« Reply #2036 on: February 24, 2021, 11:10:58 AM »
I guess one of the vaccines, (Pfizer) plans to now dispense 15 doses per vial.  I fear so many routes are being developed, and in the end, there will be people signed up at 3 places.  I guess in the end, if there is some waste, at least all will be vaccinated.  at least the ones who want it.
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« Reply #2037 on: February 24, 2021, 12:32:41 PM »
Here in MN my wife and I, both over 75 were notified about two weeks ago that we were approved to schedule an appointment but after going thru a lengthy bunch of questions the answer always came up "no appointments available." On last Wednesday when my wife had an INR check at our clinic and on the (please don't say I told you) advice from a nurse we went up to the floor where they give the shots and were told they were all booked up for two weeks. Over the weekend there was a news story that MN shipment of vaccine had been lost and then later found in Memphis and was redirected to St. Paul where the National Guard distributed it to outstate locations. So on this Monday I went thru the lengthy questions again and surprise, all kinds of appointments came up at many locations. And best of all we got in today (Wednesday) and are now getting ready to go. Hooray!

I called a friend that is the same age as I and he already turned down the shot. He did not have a good reason, just said he also did not like to get flu shots either. I'm going to have to work on him a bit as he is also scheduled for a knee replacement in March. 

   
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« Reply #2038 on: February 24, 2021, 01:19:47 PM »
My parents got their second dose today.  I'm very happy about that, but I've seen a lot lately that the second dose is actually not adding much more protection than the first dose afforded.  This week dad and I will run the mill together without masks for the first time since early summer.  Well, let me qualify that statement.  Dad will be without a mask as he stands back while I'm cutting.  I will go back to wearing my respirator with exhalation valve while cutting.

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« Reply #2039 on: February 24, 2021, 02:19:41 PM »
Again, I would point to Yellowhammer Trial as to the effectiveness of the vaccine and the contagious nature of the disease. Its a small non clinical trial, but I think makes a clear statement.

My oldest daughter (30 years old) is recovering with no ill effects, still coughing some, but she was up and eating ice cream when we called her yesterday.  

My wife (55 years old) is still doing better today than yesterday, as am I.  A note about her.  She is possibly the healthiest person I've ever known.  She has never caught the flu, never even taken flu shots.  I can't remember the last time she's even had a sinus infection, much less any other type of illness.  Her blood panels are prefect, her blood pressure is perfect, but she did have a cancer scare a couple years ago, but it wasn't a problem, knock on wood.  We used to joke, obviously in poor taste, that if the zombie virus ever attacked, she would be the only survivor in the world.  She has the immune system of Superwoman.  However, this unpredictable virus hit her hard, much worse than me and we are thankful that her doctor got her the monoclonal antibody treatment, which stopped it in its tracks.  She is still coughing, very tired, but so far so good.  Just saying, this virus is like a lottery ticket.  From my aunt who died from it, my neighbor down the road who said "it was the sickest he'd ever been in his life," to my nephew in law who suffers from permanent lung damage, to my youngest daughter, who was purely asymptomatic except for complete loss of taste and said "It was no big deal for her."

You spin the wheel, you take your chances.    


Many recommend to wait 90 days after you have the virus or monoclonal antibodies before getting the vaccine.  good luck!
Thanks, Doc I appreciate it.  With you being on the front lines, I really, really, (yes I said it twice) thank you for providing valuable input on this topic.  Salute!  

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