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Re: Small scale, low impact equipment advise
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2020, 12:51:36 PM »
Totally agree with stavebuyer stay with your model it is working good ,worthy of imitation . There's a lot to be said about knowing what you are doing , nothing wrong with improving but as they say now a days stay in your lane , I think you got this , as I read somewhere nothing but blue skies ahead.☺
I have wanted a forwarding trailer for a long time and maybe this is the excuse I have needed to buy one. The better question is maybe what brands I should consider. 
Ideally I would like to go to a forestry show and see as many as possible.
Thanks for the advice 
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Re: Small scale, low impact equipment advise
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2020, 05:42:12 PM »
Ludlowlad--Welcome to the Forum.  Good plan you have.  This is what I use.  I think Kesla bought out PATU.  Both Co's from Finland.  PM me if you'd like to come by for a look-see; 1/2 hr away?  All the best, Rob.  


 


 
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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2020, 06:00:57 PM »
Ludlowlad--Welcome to the Forum.  Good plan you have.  This is what I use.  I think Kesla bought out PATU.  Both Co's from Finland.  PM me if you'd like to come by for a look-see; 1/2 hr away?  All the best, Rob.  

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Thanks, I may take you up on that. What size trailer and reach capacity? 
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2020, 07:10:01 PM »
 

 

 
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Re: Small scale, low impact equipment advise
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2020, 07:18:27 PM »
Unless you're in a rush, the Northeast Logging Expo is coming up in Essex Junction on May 15 and 16.  It's a fun show, and they have something for just about every size operation there.
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« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2020, 07:24:17 PM »
Unless you're in a rush, the Northeast Logging Expo is coming up in Essex Junction on May 15 and 16.  It's a fun show, and they have something for just about every size operation there.
My plan was to attend the Expo. Last year went to the one in Bangor. 
I just want to have a finalized plan when I show up and talk with dealers so I could maybe take advantage of some special pricing. 
Words of wisdom I was told, when you go to the sales man know what your looking for before you get sold on something more than what you need. 
 
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« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2020, 07:26:05 PM »

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Are you happy with the woody? 
May just be the camera angle but how wide is trailer? 
Thanks 
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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2020, 08:16:40 PM »
I try to buy on the large size. Than when I get to using it a year or 2 later, it's just the right size.  ;D Seem like the salesman I get involved in want me to buy a size smaller to make a sale. Some of them have never even used what I am buying.
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« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2020, 08:30:30 PM »
I try to buy on the large size. Than when I get to using it a year or 2 later, it's just the right size.  ;D Seem like the salesman I get involved in want me to buy a size smaller to make a sale. Some of them have never even used what I am buying.
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Do you know if he hauled all that wood with that trailer? Looks like some seriously sized pieces. 
I understand that, just like buying your child a coat that is a little large so when they grow it fits them still. 
Size wise I just want to make sure that it will fit through my existing trails, ideally would not like to expand them if possible.
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« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2020, 08:50:54 PM »
I'm happy with the Woody 
They have added to their model line up since I got mine.
I wish I had got the optioned winch.
The picture it is loaded with red oak.
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« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2020, 08:55:10 PM »
I'm happy with the Woody
They have added to their model line up since I got mine.
I wish I had got the optioned winch.
The picture it is loaded with red oak.
Winch definitely would be handy! Will have to see if they are coming to the Northeast expo 
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« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2020, 05:47:45 AM »
I have no idea for sure if he hauled all the wood out with that.
This is a thread with a few more pictures.

Small skidder vs. tractor with farmi winch? in Forestry and Logging
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« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2020, 07:56:22 AM »
Maybe too small of scale? Also a steep learning curve. Certainly it's low impact.
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« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2020, 09:53:28 AM »
 The loader I bought from Bailey's it was rated for 9' reach an 900 pound lift. Over the yrs I've modified it to reach 13' and lift 1500lb. I wouldn't buy another without at least 16' reach. It's just to hard to get close enough to pick the logs up with out winching them closer. The trailer is a flex 320 I can not remember the maker it's from Canada also. Outside to outside wheel track is around 6'. The bolsters have been bent up bad while loading.Their built with to thin of steel. This is what they call a center pole look for a double frame I think that would be stronger.
 I hope to get to the forestry expo.
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« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2020, 11:03:00 AM »
Reading from my spec sheet:P PATU "525" has 16' reach and 1500 lbs; load capacity is 17600 lbs; load bed length 11'6", so can do 16' logs; load area is 21.5 ft2; PATU "80" trailer weight is 3680 lbs (2180 lbs +1500 lbs with grapple, rotator, control valve & stabilizers), total width 6'10", ground clearance 20.5".  What I really like is ability to twitch logs to edge of my lanes, then go out with PATU/Case 695 4wd (70hp) and lift full log with grapple over my trailer, cut, set log length into trailer, pull more log over trailer, etc until fully bucked up and in trailer.  Minimizes damage to the my woods as I'm not pulling around at an angle.  All the best, Rob.

 
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« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2020, 06:55:17 PM »
Maybe too small of scale? Also a steep learning curve. Certainly it's low impact.
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God bless, thank you for keeping a tradition alive! I wish I was able to be around full time to be able to even consider.
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« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2020, 07:16:46 PM »
Reading from my spec sheet:P PATU "525" has 16' reach and 1500 lbs; load capacity is 17600 lbs; load bed length 11'6", so can do 16' logs; load area is 21.5 ft2; PATU "80" trailer weight is 3680 lbs (2180 lbs +1500 lbs with grapple, rotator, control valve & stabilizers), total width 6'10", ground clearance 20.5".  What I really like is ability to twitch logs to edge of my lanes, then go out with PATU/Case 695 4wd (70hp) and lift full log with grapple over my trailer, cut, set log length into trailer, pull more log over trailer, etc until fully bucked up and in trailer.  Minimizes damage to the my woods as I'm not pulling around at an angle.  All the best, Rob.
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Sounds like the way to do it and keeps you on the trail. So you dont have to make big turns. I have made mini landings every few hundred feet to I can back my winch across the trail and pull the logs to the main trail. Similar but a lot more work. 
The more testimony that I get forwarding trailers are the way to go. Now to just narrow down the make, model, and add-ons. 
I forget now which trailer I saw that had hydraulic drive, what they called 4 wheels drive. Definitely an interesting option. 
Thanks for sharing !! 
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« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2020, 07:29:05 PM »
 

 

Wish we could all be like this guy in this interesting machine. 
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« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2020, 08:34:33 PM »
Ludlowlad,I wonder what would happen if he grabbed on to one 2 feet across!! Would work great for my firewood now. I could cut the bigger wood into 4 foot lengths. Who's buying it for me?  :D

dustyjay,and it's a lot quieter too.  ;D
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« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2020, 09:39:04 PM »
Ludlowlad,I wonder what would happen if he grabbed on to one 2 feet across!! Would work great for my firewood now. I could cut the bigger wood into 4 foot lengths. Who's buying it for me?  :D

dustyjay,and it's a lot quieter too.  ;D
Doing some research, I found that picture and was like crap that thing is small. 
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