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EWP: Girdle before cutting?
« on: March 22, 2020, 08:10:19 PM »
So we have this 26" DBH EWP we want to take down. We know it should have been cut back in January, but it didn't need cutting then :D. We are wondering if we should girdle it and let it sit for a few days before we cut it, maybe cut down on the sap flow a bit? What do y'all think, will it help or is it too late. Will a few days make a difference at this point? The average temp here has been in the low 40's to high 30's. I plan on milling this as soon as I get it home, so like within 2 weeks or so. It will take a few trips with my little trailer.
 What do you guys think, will girdling at this point make any difference? I am thinking it can't hurt, but I don't work with hardly any pine up until now. Looking for your thoughts.
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Re: EWP: Girdle before cutting?
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2020, 08:18:06 PM »
I've been keeping the house warm with EWP. I plan on building a garage and a couple was in the way. These was small ones, well if I would of waited 20 years, there would still not be a good log in them. But I am cutting them down and putting them into the OWB. Not much pitch here. Even when they sit for a week, not much pitch. Yes there is some, but it's not dripping. 
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Re: EWP: Girdle before cutting?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2020, 08:57:34 PM »
Cut it and mill it. :)
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Re: EWP: Girdle before cutting?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2020, 09:20:01 PM »
It won't make any difference that you will see, not in such a short time.  
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Re: EWP: Girdle before cutting?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2020, 10:54:01 PM »
Notice those green needles all winter long... any time its above freezing for sap that pine is working ;). Sap doesn't really go down in anything during the winter if that was the driving notion. 
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Re: EWP: Girdle before cutting?
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2020, 09:08:16 AM »
The problem would be blue stain. The tree connected to its roots will stay cool enough and when cut will be ok until the wood warms. This may not happen until May. The trick is to get the tree cut into boards and stickered and dry enough ahead of the warming that will allow blue stain. Said another way; you need both moisture and heat to have stain, take away the moisture and the heat [warm weather] alone will not produce stain.

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Re: EWP: Girdle before cutting?
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2020, 08:21:08 PM »
Thanks for all the replies. I didn't think, given the time of year, and the short time before we cut it, that it would make a difference. But we felt there was no harm in asking our experts.  :)
 Not worried about blue stain. Almost all of this will go into framing wood for my last loft. If there is excess, I will air dry it and use it for other stuff. You never know what is around the next corner and this will be just another learning experience. 8)
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Re: EWP: Girdle before cutting?
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2020, 07:42:30 AM »
Back when I was learning to saw I stickered some nice red pine in the old hay loft. It was summer. Took it apart a year later and found black boards covered in white fungus.

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Re: EWP: Girdle before cutting?
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2020, 08:24:01 AM »
Many times wounding a tree will actually increase sap flow as a stress response from the tree.
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