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Re: New processor
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2020, 10:03:17 PM »
Hopefully they get it squared away for you. Hydraulic tensioners are great when they work, and not great at all when they don't. Do they sell the manual type tensioner for their saw as well?
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Re: New processor
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2020, 04:41:39 PM »
They do put them on the smaller machines. Auto tension is an option. Today we did 3 cord of boiler wood threw the chain off once. Next we did about 10 cord of 16Ē long wood out of about 8-10Ē average diameter logs and didnít throw the chain off once!  Not sure if Iíll put the new tighter spring on just yet. I might wait till I have to do a big batch of big boiler wood. The lighter spring thatís on it now will wear the bar less in the meantime. 
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« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2020, 04:42:33 PM »
Do you guys use the auto tensioners on mechanical harvesters?
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Re: New processor
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2020, 07:53:58 PM »
Have owned my Blockbuster for 7years and 100's of cords for the two outdoor woodburners on the farms.  The only thing replaced is the manual chain tightner.  Normal wear from use.   I always feather the hyd chain when starting a cut.   Have never had any issues.   Well built heavy machine.  Mine is the pto driven machine rated at 1 cord per hour and i can produce 2 cords/hr.   When the machine is running full capacity and no down time.   I power it with a 74 hp MM tractor.  When i move it, lift the 3pt and go.   It is about the width of my corn planter (14 ft). 

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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2020, 10:26:52 PM »
Lima Findlay area
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Re: New processor
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2020, 01:25:25 AM »
All of our Ponsse harvesters have hydraulic tensioners. They work very well, but you can still throw chains, for instance hitting small brush on the back of a cut. They wouldn't be throwing chains in the situations you describe, OH, unless something was wrong, like a bad bearing on the shaft.
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Re: New processor
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2020, 06:44:31 AM »
OH Logger, how are you liking your blockbuster? I bought a new 18-20+ last year. I sold it about a week ago. I wasn't over ally impressed, the wedge setup really annoyed me with it always raising while splitting and seemed like i could never get consistent pieces out of the machine. I ended up drilling a hole in wedge and putting a pin in it so it wouldnt lift completely out of machine while splitting. I got the attached 12' conveyor, i took that off the machine within the first 15 hours of using it. Always getting jammed up , and stopping production.
I'm not sure what to buy next, really wish the logging expos would have been open this year. Im thinking a multitek, with a circular blade. The bar setup worked, but it is definitely slow.  

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Re: New processor
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2020, 07:11:04 AM »
Sorry to hear that.  Can you please post some pictures of the wedge and conveyor design so no one clones them on a build?  
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« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2020, 07:04:54 PM »
I really like it now that i put  the heavier spring in the auto tension. I see what U mean about the wedge coming up and even worse almost out of the machine. That sucks. As far as the pin u put on the wedge did u attach it to the arm that raises the wedge? Or just through the wedge so it canít come up and out of the slot itís in? I didnít get the attached conveyor NoW Iím glad I didnít. I already had a 40í conveyor from them. The only time I need another little conveyor is when I split and load directly onto a truck which I only do prolly 100 cord like that. So I just bought a 12í ABS stand alone conveyor a month or two ago. Cheaper than attached and put it in barn when Iím not using it. I put it right behind the processor and it dumps into the cleaner and that dumps into the big conveyor and onto the truck. 

As far as a different brand Iíd look at bells. But if I HAD to get a circle saw Iíd dang neared only get a multitek. The 2020 I think it is. They make 2 with the guillotine style and itís the bigger one of the 2. Seems not as fast coming down as the regular style but seems like the guillotine style would be WAY less stressful on the machine. 

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« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2020, 07:39:41 PM »
Also what wedge were you using most of the time?  I bought the 4,6,8,12 way with it. I thought I was gonna use the 12 way quite a bit. I tried it for a few hours one day. Itís kinda hard to explain but the bottom wings on the ďboxĒ part of the wedge are angled pretty decently down so the wood donít get jammed in the box part as it goes through. That is nesessary. But itís also a problem cause the wedge floats. So if itís a smaller log that only contacts the bottom half of the wedge it wants to lift the wedge. Then the next piece and the next piece so pretty soon itís REAL high. I think itís gonna work fine when in big wood that makes contact with the upper part of the wedge as well as the lower part of the wedge. Does that make sense to anyone else but me? Iíll just have to sort my logs which I really didnít want to do but I might have to. Lately anything thatís too big for the 8 way to make nice sized wood Iíve been separating to use the 4 way on for boiler wood
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Re: New processor
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2020, 02:32:59 AM »
The floating wedges on my Dyna had the same issue of continually creeping up. I would have to run a small piece through and empty the wedge in order to reset it. My Eastonmade splitter wedges were height adjusted by a hydraulic cylinder which held better than the Dyna but still suffered the upward "creep" and would need to be cleared before you could lower it back. Made no difference; 4 way, 6-way, or box they all crept up. I think a wedge would need to be bolted or pinned in place for it not to be forced up but then you probably will start destroying wedges. Some stuff is better left to rot.

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« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2020, 07:54:33 PM »
What i TRY to do is while Iím splitting a bigger log keep my eye on the next log on the deck. When I have 2-3 split cycles left on the big log Iíll lower my wedge down to where Iíll need it for the smaller log. If I let the splitter cylinder go all the way out as Iím finishing the big log by the time I get to the smaller log itís usually down. 
The guy that used to make wood for me had a woodbine and the wedge was attached to the cylinder. On his the cylinder was above the wedge. He bent MULTIPLE cylinder rods before Reworked the setup to give it some slop. Worked better after that. 
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Re: New processor
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2020, 06:11:17 AM »
I had the 6 and 8 way wedge, didn't matter what wedge i had on. I drilled a hole in the wedge and pinned it just to stop it from coming all the way out. The other thing i wasn't too keen of is that the bar chain oiler uses the same "hydraulic" tank as the rest of the machine, and it is ATF which can get expensive . It was a learning experience, and from what i hear talking to other firewood guys in my area - we all go threw it haha. I am looking at multitek or a CRD rapido loco . I know the CRD's are out of business and were built semi cheap but everyone around here says they just plain work, and work well. 

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Re: New processor
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2020, 02:12:58 PM »
When I first built my firewood processor I had my hyd multi wedge operated with the cylinder over head pinned solid. It worked that way for a while with no issues and then that knotty piece came along and it broke the over head mount off the processor so I made it with some slop in the cylinder mount and that worked for a while then a piece came along and broke the mount clean off. Know the cylinder is mounted down at the table behind the multi wedge and its not pinned at all. Sometimes it will push up and make the pieces different size but it doesn't tear the mount or the wedge up. I can always resplit if needed. That's better than tearing the machine up. 

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Re: New processor
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2020, 08:33:39 PM »
My 14-12 came with a bolt to keep the wedge from pushing up and out.  I got nasty twisted pieces stuck exactly twice and had to cut them out with a chainsaw because there was no way to get the bolt out to lift the whole thing out of the machine to do it.  I took the bolt out so the wedge could float as intended and never put it back.  I run tractor fluid in mine.  It's cheaper than ATF for sure and bar oil too.  The hydraulics warm up so it lubes the bar.  A separate system for bar oiling never warms up when it's cold and most recommend winter grade bar oil year around.  I'd much rather have the oil come from the hydraulics.  One less system to fail and no bar oil to buy.
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