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Does anybody know what this tree is?
« on: May 28, 2020, 07:21:00 PM »
Sorry for the poor quality photos.




It is growing in what used to be a mature hardwood forest in the western White Mountains of New Hampshire, at about 1,000 feet.

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Re: Does anybody know what this tree is?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2020, 08:27:48 PM »
Which photo? You need to post it from your gallery into the post.  I took a look and all the photos there were from last August and a Hazlenut.  
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Re: Does anybody know what this tree is?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2020, 10:01:29 PM »
Sorry, I tried copying an image directly into the post, and it must not have shown up.  Is that any better?

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Re: Does anybody know what this tree is?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2020, 10:20:11 PM »
Id say chinquipin oak.  One of two trees that makes a whiskey barrel.  Grow it.
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Re: Does anybody know what this tree is?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2020, 10:09:07 PM »
Hello again,

I got a couple more pictures of the tree, today.

 


I think it might actually be hop-hornbeam.  As a follow up to Mike's post, does anybody know whether chinquipin oak grows this far north?  I have heard that it sometimes grows in southwestern Vermont, but the only oak that I have seen here, north of the White Mountains, is red oak.

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Re: Does anybody know what this tree is?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2020, 07:47:10 AM »
It is hophornbeam. 
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Re: Does anybody know what this tree is?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2020, 08:07:41 AM »
Id look around down low for more eastern hophornbeam babies, when young it has smooth bronze bark with horizontal lenticels. If it is like ours keep the saw idling and take it out, kind of a native invasive here.
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Re: Does anybody know what this tree is?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2020, 09:20:15 AM »
I have eastern Hop Hornbeam over in Randolph NH and know of a small stand in Milan. The bark look like the close up shop. The shot in the first post doesn't look like my trees, the bark with the moss staining looks like maple.

BTW I find them in rocky south facing slopes usually in the understory. They don't grow big but reportedly are great firewood. Cut them with chainsaw and you will know it, that wood is dense. 

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2020, 10:03:51 AM »
Id look around down low for more eastern hophornbeam babies, when young it has smooth bronze bark with horizontal lenticels. If it is like ours keep the saw idling and take it out, kind of a native invasive here.
Thanks for the advice, Don.  I'll make sure to keep an eye on the areas that have hophornbeam.

I have eastern Hop Hornbeam over in Randolph NH and know of a small stand in Milan. The bark look like the close up shop. The shot in the first post doesn't look like my trees, the bark with the moss staining looks like maple.

BTW I find them in rocky south facing slopes usually in the understory. They don't grow big but reportedly are great firewood. Cut them with chainsaw and you will know it, that wood is dense.
Peakbagger, thanks for the tip on hophornbeam as firewood.  I don't have that many on my property, but if they ever start competing with my other trees, I know what they will be used for.


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Re: Does anybody know what this tree is?
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2020, 10:04:56 PM »
They say that buds on Hophornbeam are good winter food for Ruffed Grouse. And it makes top shelf stovewood.

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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2020, 10:19:58 AM »
I don't think Eastern Hop Hornbeam will move in on anything up in Northern NH. It grows really slow and seems to have a niche habitat. Cut one and look at the growth rings, super tight. Good firewood if you have a log splitter and plenty of time to dry it as its very dense. Good wood to throw on the fire before bed. 

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2020, 12:16:55 PM »
It is great firewood but does rot fast if not kept covered. It is also good grilling wood, much like hickory. I've made a few grilling planks and cheese cutting boards out of it.  I agree that first pick looks nothing like mine but the rest do, generally pretty short and poor form. I've gone through and taken out hundreds per acre in the understory, the deer don't like them for browse so aside from rubbing a few they kind of reverse select for them by taking out the tastier, good, young trees.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2020, 12:27:38 PM »
Don and Peakbagger,

Thanks for the information on hophornbeam.  I always enjoy learning the uses for the trees on my property, and I will remember to try grilling something with this particular one, sometime.  I wonder if the reason that hophornbeam isn't invasive, up here, is because of the lack of deer.  We don't have nearly as many in northern New England as some of you guys further south.  Also, my property was recently logged (almost clearcut, actually) by the previous owner, which leads me to believe that better trees will likely out compete slow growers like hophornbeam or beech--I just need to keep the darn poplars from taking over.  Is this a reasonable thought?


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