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Offline Mad Professor

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Re: 036 ate another wrist pin clip
« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2020, 04:56:08 PM »
The last I did was an 036 cylinder on an 034 crankcase .I used  a Meteor piston and have had reports it's still doing well after maybe 10 years .
I have another in the shed I don't think anything is wrong with it I had landed from a dealers" dead pile " which is an 034 Super which in essence is an 036 .That model is pretty snappy for it's size .I'm not certain if it runs the small or large sized rim sprockets .Doesn't make a diff I have plenty some place in a box .  
Al, Stihl up graded the clutch drum to a larger bearing and larger sized rim somewhere in the 036 series.  They sell a kit to convert the early saws.
I had an early 036 loose the bearing but the crank survived.  It got the kit.

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Re: 036 ate another wrist pin clip
« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2020, 08:52:25 PM »
That 034 I upgraded had the tar beat out of it,tree trimmer you know .They lost the E-clip blew the bearing out broke a clutch segment and finally locked it up .I stuck it back together with parts i had laying around .I don't remember if I put the large bearing drum on it or not but I did use a clutch segment from I think an 029 and the springs .A guy from Louisiana  on another forum sent me a cylinder from  an 036 It survived to live another day .

The story goes on .I only ran it about 15 minutes ,did okay .Traded it off for  a cherry 805 Mac ,I mean  like a new one ,bad chrome on the cylinder.Got a used cylinder from an 850 ,back in business until I straight gassed it  by mistake with a squeeze bottle ,oops .Found an early model 850,cheap,rough ,real good engine .So now it's an 805 hiding an 850 engine . You just never know where that road will take you  ;D 

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Re: 036 ate another wrist pin clip
« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2020, 07:51:18 AM »
The good thing about oil mixes is that they color the gas. If you don't see that color from the oil, then don't put the gas into you saw. I mark all my gas cans for 2 cycle. The other day I grabbed a gas can that wasn't marked and noticed the gas with no color going into my Stihl weed-eater. Was straight gas and so I dumped it out of the weed-eater. I'd only put a little in, but not taking any chances.

Not sure how anyone could fill an entire tank with straight gas and not notice there is no coloring. Label all your cans and stick to your system of marking.....

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Re: 036 ate another wrist pin clip
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2020, 08:38:28 AM »
That straight gas was just stupid mistake I made from being in a hurry .I've done almost the same thing by using an old anti freeze jug to store my mix gas in  . Anti freezed a weed wacker and gasolined my old tractor .Duh :D

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Re: 036 ate another wrist pin clip
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2020, 04:19:12 PM »
That straight gas was just stupid mistake I made from being in a hurry .I've done almost the same thing by using an old anti freeze jug to store my mix gas in  . Anti freezed a weed wacker and gasolined my old tractor .Duh :D
I use old 1- 2.5- oil jugs to recycle oil.  I've grabbed one of those by mistake top top off, or when changing oil.
It's at least obvious if you notice the color.

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« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2020, 04:53:45 PM »
I antifreezed the weed wacker first on that episode .The antifreeze and the mix gas were about the same color . The old tractor i knew immediately ..Didn't hurt anything .I just rebuilt the carb on the weed wacker .

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Re: 036 ate another wrist pin clip
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2020, 06:47:00 PM »
The good think about oil mixes is that they color the gas. If you don't see that color from the oil, then don't put the gas into you saw. I mark all my gas cans for 2 cycle. The other day I grabbed a gas can that wasn't marked and noticed the gas with no color going into my Stihl weed-eater. Was straight gas and so I dumped it out of the weed-eater. I'd only put a little in, but not taking any chances.

Not sure how anyone could fill an entire tank with straight gas and not notice there is no coloring. Label all your cans and stick to your system of marking.....

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91 octane (lowest grade at pump) is died red in NZ. Stihl chainsaw oil is red, I can't tell if it's mixed or not. Maybe if I pour it into a white ice-cream container and analyse side by side but I cant tell while pouring =[]

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Re: 036 ate another wrist pin clip
« Reply #47 on: July 04, 2020, 09:53:10 AM »
If you cut to the chase nobody intentionally straight gasses a two cycle . Anybody can make a mistake unless for arm chair quarterbacks that do nothing.

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Re: 036 ate another wrist pin clip
« Reply #48 on: July 05, 2020, 08:24:35 AM »
The good think about oil mixes is that they color the gas. If you don't see that color from the oil, then don't put the gas into you saw. I mark all my gas cans for 2 cycle. The other day I grabbed a gas can that wasn't marked and noticed the gas with no color going into my Stihl weed-eater. Was straight gas and so I dumped it out of the weed-eater. I'd only put a little in, but not taking any chances.

Not sure how anyone could fill an entire tank with straight gas and not notice there is no coloring. Label all your cans and stick to your system of marking.....

Kevin
91 octane (lowest grade at pump) is died red in NZ. Stihl chainsaw oil is red, I can't tell if it's mixed or not. Maybe if I pour it into a white ice-cream container and analyse side by side but I cant tell while pouring =[]
That's a bummer.

At my age, my only salvation is to put gas in two cycles that was from a designated, marked can. When I was younger, I never made this mistake....ever.

I never heard of anybody straight gassing a 2 cycle(at least that they would admit to), except in the last ten yrs. Maybe it's just a function of being in a hurry.

Kevin

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Re: 036 ate another wrist pin clip
« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2020, 11:56:56 AM »
All my small cans(<5G) are 2stroke only, and I never fill them unless I'm adding oil at that time. It's virtually impossible for me to add straight gas to my gear.

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« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2020, 12:37:14 PM »
All my small cans(<5G) are 2stroke only, and I never fill them unless I'm adding oil at that time. It's virtually impossible for me to add straight gas to my gear.
I use a chemistry graduated cylinder to measure out mix oil.  Then do 2-5 gal of mix at a time.
I transfer the mixed fuel to repurposed labeled 1-gal Coleman/white gas metal cans.  The cans are handy size to bring into the woods and they protect the mix from light and air/moisture. It's hard to  mix those up as my stove/lantern fuel cans are with my camping gear and are not labeled mix

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« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2020, 07:09:26 PM »
If you're needing portability, take a lesson from fire line fighters. They use special cans and have a 'system'.

In the woods for yrs I used the double cans that are oil/gas mix on one side and bar oil on the other. The ones Baileys used to sell I could slip my axe handle in. One arm carried that and the chainsaw/bar slung on my shoulder with the other arm.

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Re: 036 ate another wrist pin clip
« Reply #52 on: September 03, 2020, 11:19:36 AM »
Just an update.  I still haven't bothered with this saw yet.  Too much else ahead of it on the to-do list.  I did run across the parts book, so called to price some OEM parts.

Long story shortened:  New Stihl crank, and bearings would run about $435 plus shipping, and sales tax.  New MS 362 with new 20" bar and chain $767.  Meteor cylinder kit was something like $135.  That puts parts for the old saw at less than $200 below the cost of a new saw.

OEM bearings were only around $23 each, so I may get them, and try the chinese crank.

OEM crank, for more than half the cost of a new saw is not going to happen for this one.  

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« Reply #53 on: September 03, 2020, 07:05:49 PM »
Meteor now has the 'dirty' distinction of being partnered with Hyway in some way.....be aware.

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Re: 036 ate another wrist pin clip
« Reply #54 on: September 03, 2020, 09:49:27 PM »
I have no doubt if you look around you could do it cheaper than that .I know I could and it would be fine .Of course it might take me a year to round up all the stuff to make it happen. :D Which is why you need a lot of saws so you have something to use . 8)

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Re: 036 ate another wrist pin clip
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2020, 04:34:14 AM »
Meteor now has the 'dirty' distinction of being partnered with Hyway in some way.....be aware.

Kevin
Put one in my 039 squeel about a year ago methinks.
The casting in the intake side needed some cleaning up
There was excessive (alloy) lumps in some places
Nikasil seemed fine.
Point is , I was learning about porting improvements at the time so no problem
Just playing around as a hobbyist.
But others may buy this stuff thinking it is good to go. It may go .. But not as good as..


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