Husqvarna 2100CD

[sawguy21]

They  are not as plentiful but still necessary for the professional users. The local Stihl dealer is kept busy, has a very good tech who knows his saws so draws customers from a wide area. The nearest Husky dealers don't seem to care, to them it's all about the numbers. Saws or widgets, it's all the same to them.

[Real1shepherd]

I never usually see the guys in the back of garden/implement Squeal saw shop. They only come forward to explain something to customers or answer a complaint. They have pro saws in there, so I imagine they service them.

The other guy that got sick and closed catered to pro saw users, but that was across the border in Oregon. I should have taken a loan out and bought his entire inventory. He had a mountain of old saws.......

Kevin

[Al_Smith]

I'm not a pro but I'm not stupid either .On the rare occasion I need a part I know the Stihl part number in advance before I ever walk in the door .
The most amusing was when this young lady tried to con be in to carbide faced lo pro for a 200T when I wanted rapid super which is chisel .The owner came out of the back laughing ,she didn't know me ,the owner does . 8)

[ZeroJunk]

I went in to the Stihl dealer yesterday and got recruited, or more like drafted. The tech was off for a week and now he is sick with something. There may be one hundred pieces of equipment. Daunting. I went through six or eight yesterday morning, not a saw yet. Zero.  I think in the whole mess there probably isn't over fifteen saws. Predominantly weedeaters, a few blowers, that back pack sprayer contraption, one concrete saw, couple of pole saws. Out of the saws there may be two "pro" saws. The rest are the homeowner saws with tags that say stuff like "won't start". Today should be fun.

Anyhow, that is the OPE market I suppose. In this area anyway.

[Pine Ridge]

The shop that i deal with sells Husqvarna and Stihl. The owner is a good guy and knowledgable, he will go out of his way to take care of all his customers. He has grown his business very fast. He can't find good help with any knowledge of chainsaws.

[Real1shepherd]

I have a business that is very dependent on helpers. I used to go out of my way to hire young adults and teach them a trade. But in doing that I lost thousands over the yrs, fixing their mistakes, letting the bid jobs drag on too long while they learned etc.

I don't regret doing it, but I'll retire before I do any of that again. So I can truly empathize with the lack of knowledgeable help. 

Kevin

[Spike60]

I don't know what our parents said about us when we were young and the main interests were muscle cars and what chick you were taking to the next concert. But we all had jobs and did things with our hands besides twiddle our thumbs on smart phones. Those things are like electronic crack. We're fortunate to have a really good 27 YO tech in our shop. Excellent on 4 stroke and not bad on the saw side either. Which hints at the problem in getting good saw service.

In most shops, saws play second fiddle to the larger ride on equipment. "yeah, we got saws over there in the corner" is the attitude. There is no real focus on saws and saw customers in those shops. To me, the saw biz is the easiest part of the whole operation. No pick up and delivery, no crates to dispose of, HUGE parts and accesories business that goes along with it. We pull in saw customers from the surrounding area codes because we do have that focus, and there's so much work that we only take in Husky/Jonsered. That alone makes life better for both us and the customers. There is a gigantic difference between working on products that you are set up for vs brands that you aren't. It's a rare occasion that we need to order a Husky part to finish a job; even for the older models. Chasing parts for other brands? The heck with that.

Most other shops "work on everything" but they don't have parts for anything. I don't get it.

[Real1shepherd]

I bought a bunch of old Husky Service Manuals and factory revisions once in the form of huge binders. In one section was a flow chart for fixing saw problems. That should be in the stickies of every saw forum. I laminated it for durability. It's too big to scan, so I don't know how to share it......

Anyway, every newbie should start out with that chart and then go to the forums if they have more questions.

Kevin

[Al_Smith]

Actual they don't work on just any saw .The ones they sell yes ,others no .Those end up in a dealers dead pile and I get them for pennies depending on what they are .How about a Stihl 200T for $20 . Took me half an hour to get it running .8)

[sawguy21]

You bandit, you stole that saw :D A decent 200T is hard to find and priced accordingly.

[ZeroJunk]

No telling how many of those have been junked because of that accelerator pump in the carb starting to leak air.

[Al_Smith]

Most of the problems with the 200T's were blamed on the carbs .It was not that .it was the bearings .The roller bearing mains have  internal fiber thrust washers that would wear and cause sideways oscillations that wore the seals out .Unlike a ball bearing that can take thrust a roller bearing can not unless it has a thrust washer .The fix was just new bearings and seals which used to be around 60 bucks total for the parts .I repaired  a bunch of them .
That cheapie I got they thought it blew a rod .What it was was the pin from the brake band came loose and ended up in a hole near the flywheel magnets which locked it up .
Now then rambling on ,off topic for a 2100 Husky .One variation of the Zama C1Q carb had  problems when it went from Japan to China .Myself and Adam  Clark from California thought we found it,internal crack in the fuel chamber ,fixed them with red Lock  Tite .I sent one to Stihl Virginia Beach and they ran it though testing,it wasn't it but it was an internal leak .I got the report back and a brand new carb which I have on a modified 200T and it never ran so  good .

[ZeroJunk]

Well, the carbs have a cam on the shaft that pushes a little piston and squirts a shot of gas every time you squeeze the trigger. The little o-ring starts to leak. Stihl offered a kit at one time with the little plunger and O-ring.  I have fixed a handful of those.

[Huskybill]

I ran a 2100cd and a 2101xp for decades in the firewood business. The 2100cd with a 16"/18" bar would destroy any wood in its path. I installed a larger pin rim, plugged the governor, advance the timing, use 404" full chisel chain, rakers set .035"/.040". She went to war. I love this beast of a saw. I have three sitting here they kick butt.

[barbender]

Gosh with a 16" bar I would hope so! Seems kinda like putting 13" donut spares on the back of a muscle car😁

[Real1shepherd]

No offense, Huskybill, but a terrible waste of a big-timber commercial saw. There are any number of lighter, newer purpose built firewood saws.

The Squeal community here would be happy to tell you about a few. 8) 

It's not like the market is flooded with used 2100's for the taking..........


Kevin

[Bruno of NH]

I found a 2100cd in very good condition this late winter $500 .
I was tight on cash and waited one day to long.
Was going to use it to chainsaw mill.
It was clean used but not beat up .

[Bruno of NH]

I won't drag my feet next time,if there is one.

[Real1shepherd]

I found a 2100cd in very good condition this late winter $500 .
I was tight on cash and waited one day to long.
Was going to use it to chainsaw mill.
It was clean used but not beat up .

Looking at it from another point of view.....I paid $500 for them when they were new. So....paying that much for one now, well used, is like a punch in the gut.

But if you've never had one and they are not showing up anymore......you have the cash etc, etc....

Kevin

[Al_Smith]

To put things in perspective with the times an example .During that time period a Partner P-100 Super which is the exact bore and stroke of a Husky 2100 sold for $ 689 with a 36" bar ..The concrete saw, K-1200  using the same engine was over $1000 .Large saws have never been inexpensive .

[Real1shepherd]

They were reasonable if you were a pro and just bought the power head from Baileys. Considering the amount of work done with a well maintained 2100/2101 in big timber, the expense was negligible.

Our saws more than paid for themselves in the first week they were new.

Kevin

[j-jock]

I used this saw professionally for over a decade as a logger. Long story about how it came to be....this model by Husky.

I'm reluctant to endorse it as a firewood saw for the following reasons:
1. It's heavy compared to other lightweight saws today that are purpose built for a firewood setting....like pro 50-70cc class saws.
2. Parts are NLA and VERY expensive, via the collectors who have been hot on this saw for yrs.
3. This is a serious saw for fellin' and bucking big timber. Putting a 24" bar on it is an insult and extreme overkill. With a small bar like that, other modern saws will run circles around it.
4. If you've never used a saw this big before, it could be dangerous to your health...especially if it's without a chain brake.
5. When you find out the collector's value of the saw, you may not want to run it.
6. No decomp. Isn't a big deal for me, but I'm used to it...others complain about that a lot.

That being said, on another forum I tested one of my 2100's against my J'reds 2094. Both with 36" bars and both running square file .404 skip-tooth chain.

The 2094 wraps about 14,000 unloaded and the 2100 around 12,500(governor mod). With the tip showing in the work bucking large sugar maple, the 2094 out performed the 2100. But bury the tip in wood, bucking and the 2100 walked away from the 2094. And this Husky will handle much bigger bars without breaking a sweat.

So sure, if it's a great price, BUY the saw....but I'm not certain you'll need it on much in firewood. Maybe the occasional log around 36" and more. I don't know what you cut?

Dibs if you buy it and don't like it....lol.

Kevin

I have 5 of them, and although I never used them in the woods, I did use them a lot for my own stuff including, falling, Alaska milling, and with a rotary knife for shaping logs.
I agree that they are too big for a wood saw, 100cc and weight 27 lbs, but they sure send a strong message.  
One of my saws has a compression release, but I am so used to starting them, that I have only used it a couple of times.
I just love these beauties, and if you have the extra coin and love old saws, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it, then buy a smaller used 60cc saw to cut your fire wood.
Bob

[sawguy21]

So you are why I can't find one! :D

[j-jock]

I just happened to luck in years ago, before the prices started increasing, and buy a bunch of 380 and 2100s, some complete and some in pieces, from a guy that had a saw contract and managed to work himself into losing it. 
I have a difficult time selling anything once it ends up in the yard, just as she, who must be obeyed.  :-)
Bob

[Al_Smith]

Actually all of my large saws came about before prices went though the roof also .Even  my latest two I rebuilt wasn't terrible .I think I have a little over $400 in two Partner p-100's including the parts to rebuild them which took nearly two years just to find the parts . Plus a lot of research which is part of the challenge of restoration . If I'm correct I got the Husky 2100 for a little over $100 with the shipping from Washington state which had a bad ignition coil .That had to be at least 10 years ago .