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Re: Broken sawblade guide
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2020, 08:33:28 PM »
Thanks, I had most of it right in my head.

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Re: Broken sawblade guide
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2020, 09:42:31 PM »
Boy you  are right about looking like a big shackle, I have plenty of those and I'll look close at that possibility, I've been milling all my framing material for my barn and being broke down has brought construction to a halt. Yes luap, that is the guide like mine, it appears to be cast iron would cast steel be that brittle?  I'll be more careful about trying to get that last little piece off the cut, normally don't have that kind of trouble with it rattling off the edge of the carriage costly mistake. My mill I guess is an American #1 also thanks for the picture.Markd
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Re: Broken sawblade guide
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2020, 09:49:58 AM »
Cast steel is very weldable compared to cast iron. I have found that the few cast parts on mine that I have repaired are good quality cast. Back in the day they produced quality manufacturing and didn't settle for "good enough" The  different American models used a lot of common parts. The difference between the models was in the type of drives on the husk and the head block opening of the carriage to accommodate log size. They could be ordered with various options so the same model could have different features. You can look at their catalogs on  American Saw Mill Machinery Co. - Publication Reprints | VintageMachinery.org

I always cut so my last board is a 2x and I have a pin stop in the setworks so you can't stroke it too far in one pull.

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Re: Broken sawblade guide
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2020, 10:44:30 AM »
Stuff on mills break, and in the great white north, solid steel can snap when running below zero.

One time we had a cutter head pillow block bearings go out on the morbark debarker. Probably 2.5" arbor. It was -10.  Bearing wouldn't budge. The case was off because the ball bearings came right out of it. I got disgusted trying to get the puller on it and hauled off and hit it with the 4lb hammer and the race broke off the arbor like glass.

A year or so kater it hapoed again in the summer. I could hear pounding from the sawbooth. When I ran out of logs I went out and found the debarker operator beating on the race. He says how did you get that to bust last time?
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« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2020, 10:18:22 PM »
Well after all the bad things I said about his attitude he came through and welded the guide back together for me.And did a very nice job it looks very strong,it cost me plenty but I'm not complaining I know everything is off the charts nowdays. I'll admit I really didn't expect him to have it finished, he didn't call back and I just went with the intention of picking it up but he surprised me in more ways let that be a lesson for us all sometime arent the way they first seem. Markd

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« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2020, 09:33:14 AM »
Got my broken part back, looks good and back in action!
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Re: Broken sawblade guide
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2020, 09:49:12 AM »
Lets see it!
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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2020, 10:35:51 PM »
Ok Jeff, I'll get a picture of it tomorrow, I put it all back together and ran a few cuts with it today and it's all back to normal. They did a nice job. Markd
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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2020, 12:44:44 PM »

 

 

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Re: Broken sawblade guide
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2020, 06:56:04 PM »
So despite your initial concern, they came through. It looks great. I don't see a board splitter behind your saw. Has that ever been a concern? Under the right condition the saw could catch a board and throw it without a splitter to hold it away.

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« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2020, 07:06:02 PM »
Good  call. Definitly needs a splitter.
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« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2020, 08:36:22 PM »
Well I did consider a splitter once maybe 20yrs ago but before I put one in I started running a cut and then I would leave the carriage in the out position in case the cut board doesn't fall away then I walk around and remove each board after the cut and then return the carriage and have never had a problem like you described so I just never have put one in but  thank you both for reminding me,you're right it really should have one. I'll put that at the head of my list and see if I can get it done. I also have an old parts unit and I think I saw a splitter somewhere. Markd
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« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2020, 09:40:33 PM »
Ok, I found this splitter and there appears to be room for it all I have to do is free up the stuck rollers and mount it. So thanks again for building a fire under me!

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Re: Broken sawblade guide
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2020, 09:44:57 PM »
I was right.  Heres the one from parts mill
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Re: Broken sawblade guide
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2020, 09:30:44 AM »
The only reason I noticed is I had it happen to me. I have a a splitter but It was to low in relation to the width of the board being sawed. Sawing by my self I used a piece of edging to nudge the board to fall away from the saw. Before I could touch it,  it started to fall on the saw. Realizing what was happening, I dropped to the deck. It flew and hit the headblock and broke the casting off. Lots of lessons learned. I have a plexiglass shield but it would not stop that. A friend of mine used a piece of flat stock with an axe head welded on it for a tall splitter as he frequently sawed 12"+ wide material  for the state park. I am sure there are lots of similar stories  from sawyers.

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« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2020, 03:32:08 PM »
I agree, anything that gets tangled up with that spinning blade is in for a wild ride and anything can happen. I cut a lot of very wide boards  also,many up to 23 inches and lots of 12 inch usually they fall away from the blade but once in awhile one will stay upright and I won't return the carriage until I walk around and pull it over I work alone when I'm milling so I have to be careful. I got that roller unstuck this morning. My welder won't reach over to the mill so I'll have to solve that problem before I fix it.
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