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Offline North to Alaska

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Size tractor?
« on: August 10, 2020, 10:48:53 AM »
I Im sure this has been hashed before but maybe with different tractor duties?

Location: near Talkeetna, AK
Property: 40 acres, mostly flat, all forest spruce and birch. Not many over 10 diameter. May get muddy.
Duties: clearing trees, stumps, firewood, snow removal(110 to 130 a year) Eventually a little mowing, brush hogging, tilling etc. Using pro winch,  grapple, and Danuser stump puller.

Have my sites on a 47 hp 4,100# 4wd. Cost is a factor, so Im thinking of going to a lower horse and even smaller sized.

Thoughts on what I really NEED and vs what I would like?

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Re: Size tractor?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2020, 11:08:23 AM »
Look for an older wheel loader with forks and a clamp style grapple.  Fabricate a bucket or snow pusher that will slide onto the forks and be held in pace with the grapple.  More power, bigger tires, greater towing and carrying capacity (by far) for less money.
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Re: Size tractor?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2020, 11:50:08 AM »
Out in the bush you need something you can actually fix yourself.  

Look at old Long and belarus machines.  You can get 3x more machine per dollar vs kubota deere et al.  

  
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Re: Size tractor?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2020, 03:50:58 PM »
Looking at a Branson 4520r
Less $ than most others, no computer, the emissions stuff is low tech (and can be cut off if need be). Good dealer in the area. 
Just wondering if smaller size will work fine.

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2020, 04:45:35 PM »
I have a 2wd 35 horsepower older tractor.  The place it would have trouble in your scenario is the snow.  I have a 6 foot scraper blade (pull behind 3 point hitch).  It really can't handle 6 inches of heavy wet snow very well.  With an angle in the blade, the rear of the tractor wants to walk around.  We don't get enough snow in my part of the world to warrant a dedicated snow plow, so I don't know how the smaller tractor would handle pushing snow with a conventional snow plow rather than the pull behind blade.  Maybe someone a little farther north can answer that question.

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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2020, 05:00:58 PM »
If I was in the market for a new tractor I would look at the Branson
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2020, 07:37:05 PM »
The size and species of logs you mention don't require a lot of grunt. My 83 year old brother still runs a Kubota L2250 and a Farmi 290 winch. He bought the tractor new and it probably has 7000 hours on it. 

We don't get the snow you mentioned but that tractor has done a lot of work in 35 years.

The 2250,2550 and 2850 are a great series of well built tractors and will give good service if not abused.

On the other hand his brother is partial to the L3750 and bigger Kubotas with hydraulic shuttle shift. As close to an automatic trans. as you can get w/o HST.

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Re: Size tractor?
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2020, 09:14:24 PM »
A snow blower on the back would do it. I use a 18hp and that thing would blow snow. I have a 30 and that will blow snow too. But both was a hydro, so hit a drift just slow down and ease through it. A 30 hp will do a lot. Just have to make more trips. I use a 40 to haul rocks 3 feet across.  ;D
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2020, 10:12:59 PM »
I agree with mike_belben,  I run a farm trac 53 hp, which is a later model Long made by LG in Korea, they are imported today as LS tractors. Simple tough machine, had to replace a clutch (burnt it, pushing snow my bad) the water pump, and the oil pan gasket. Had it 16 years. Mitsubishi 4 cylinder diesel. Older front wheel assist with that snow.

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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2020, 10:15:31 PM »
Thanks for all the replies!

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Re: Size tractor?
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2020, 05:25:36 PM »
  • try an old garrett 15 With gearmatic 8 winch or something  similar, easy on fuel wont get stuck added blade width make a good snow plow with 172 ci desiel or gas has all the power you need simple to work on easy to install a block heater for cold weather starts etc

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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2020, 07:53:46 PM »
Ten feet of snow.
Does it fall and stay til spring?
Does it fall and get rained away in a few days?
Either way - that sets the bar for what's going to work for you.
I'd go with a snowblower on the pto.
You've got to throw that stuff far, or you'll get buried under it.
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2020, 02:38:47 AM »
Snowblower, on my latil was powered by a 260HP diesel V8. And has a 125hp motor for the wheels.  When you say 30HP to power a snowblower. That seems extremely low. 

I agree with Haleiwa.  Wheel loader.  If it's flat, you can pull trees.  You can always add bits and bobs to it, tap into the hydraulics. Add a winch, i think it's doable. 

Where i live, we get even more snow sometimes. And most of the job is done by wheel loaders. There is 6 just within 100 yards around me. 3 more backhoes. That could be an option too. 

A tractor with a snowblower, i would get 120hp, minimum, and a turning seat and controls. Because looking backwards, that gets old fast. 
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Re: Size tractor?
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2020, 08:23:28 AM »
IMO you cannot buy too big (within reason) but you can buy too small
My last two tractors were and are a 1967 4020 90 hp deere and 8540 , 85 hp Kubota fwd
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2020, 08:29:17 AM »
But you can try to buy too expensive, with disasterous, snow balling results.  
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2020, 08:42:33 AM »
 40 to 60 hp 4wd w/loader of your choice, has enough power to weight ratio for what you want to do. If your going snowblower get one with a cab.

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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2020, 05:07:53 PM »
I have a caseih 5230 90 hp fwd will do everything you need, also a 5220 little smaller 

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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2020, 05:38:09 PM »
Thank you for all the advice 

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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2020, 08:34:48 PM »
This is only a 18 hp tractor.





Yes, I doubt that is 2 feet of snow, but snow is moving out of my way.  
I have done 2 feet of snow, maybe twice, in 20 years. I have a 500 foot driveway, and an area where my wood is, that is in the above picture. I sure don't get the snow you do, but depends how much you gat in a storm. That 18 did fine and the 30 is that much better. Both was and is hydro, so I turn sideways in the seat and go!! The reason I bought a rear, when I looked at a front one, Kubota, it looked like one out in front of walmart.  :o  Just thin sheet metal. I have a dirt driveway, That would not last me. Than he had one made out of real metal, 3/16, something that I could weld on if I break it.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2020, 07:58:10 AM »
Heading down to pick up the 4520r Branson tomorrow👍


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