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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2020, 09:24:48 AM »
Great looking island Danny.  Pine is often overlooked by woodworkers, but this is just absolutely stunning.

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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2020, 09:56:05 AM »
   Thanks for the detailed explanation Danny. I don't get the big yellow pines up here like you guys do. Does this work the same with White Pine? I'm assuming it does.
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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2020, 10:27:47 AM »
I have always loved pine. Mostly because of the character in it. Just wish it was harder for alot of things. Do you put anything on it to make it more durable?

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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2020, 03:45:17 PM »
f you get some really good, big, old, tight grained pine, this is a good way to saw it and maximize the value.  I sell this thick vertical grain clear pine, kiln dried to 8% and planed to a full 2" for $2.95/bf.

   In a week or two , that may be the price for framing lumber! smiley_dizzy
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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2020, 08:00:57 PM »
Update:

The 9/4 rift and quartersawn pine is out of the kiln.  I planed it to 2 3/16" thick.  Came out of the kiln gun barrel straight, clear, nice vertical grain with few to no knots.  The board in the top middle has the least vertical grain of any board in the whole stack, so I did not cherrypick the boards for the photo.  I am very pleased with it.  It will make some very fine tabletops. 



 

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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2020, 05:44:06 AM »


That rift sawn sure looks good and with this method of QS it doesn't take much extra time.   Steve
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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2020, 08:53:03 AM »
That came out great, Danny!

WV, as much as I love White Pine, it doesn't have the distinction in grain between the early and latewood like the yellow pines do. We have Red Pine up here, it's very similar in appearance to the yellow pines. I have a whack I want to saw up this way.
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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2020, 08:22:02 PM »
Red pine is in the yellow pine group. 
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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2020, 09:52:40 PM »
Danny, I should've asked you before I said anything😁 I know I have a few logs I need to saw up that I aged at about 155 years old (it was hard to count the rings on some of it, 10-15 to the inch, we grow pine like you boys cook barbecue slooooow😁) I think it's really going to look awesome when it's sawn up.
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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2020, 07:37:52 AM »
I bet the lumber will be very good. 
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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2020, 09:08:52 AM »
I'm going to start selling red pine.
I did a test in the spring with some.
Customers went right to it over the white pine .
I think it had to do with the contrasts of the grain.
White pine is plain looking.
I peal the bark on white pine and put it up off the ground for a year and saw them into slabs. It makes the grain pop more and customers like it.
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« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2020, 07:30:29 PM »
This is the second 8' log from one of those old pine, note the the tight rings


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« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2020, 07:32:32 PM »
Only the second stick, and it's too small for you southern guys to mess with quartersawing in the first place😊
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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2020, 08:25:00 PM »
That will make awesome lumber. 
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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2020, 10:48:47 PM »
I could make 4" vertical gran flooring from that log by breaking it down into multiple cants, nothing wrong with 4" wide face QS flooring with rings that tight.  Most of the old stuff around here is in the 2"-3" range.
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« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2020, 10:58:17 PM »
The funny thing was, this came off the back of a Federal plantation we were thinning. Nothing special, probably 50 years old. But for some reason they marked 2 of these big old pine where the plantation came into the edge of the stand. I was on the phone right away seeing if they could come home with me, otherwise they would just be 2x4s🤷‍♂️😊
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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2020, 06:36:35 AM »
Just a thought. What if you took the top or bottom third and when you turned it up 90 you could drop 4" or a little more and then rotate 180 and do it again. This would give you some rift sawed table legs when you split them in half. They should have very little bow since they are so far from the pith. Just a quick thought when looking at the pictures.
I took Jake up on his suggestion.  These will be kiln dried, squared and planed, and marketed as pine farm table legs.  


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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2020, 01:55:41 PM »
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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2020, 04:48:25 PM »
I tried this today on a not so great log, really happy with the results 

 

 

 

 
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Re: Using Modified Quartersawing Method on Pine.
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2020, 07:59:36 PM »
The vertical grain pattern on pine is something that you do not see much in commercially available lumber.  The 1x's that I sawed dried dead flat in the kiln.  Sawed 1 1/8" rough, and they planed clean on both faces to a full 1".  However, I did get a surprise.  When I sawed the logs, the wood looked fairly bright and fresh, but unbeknownst to me, the ambrosia beetles were already in the log, so as the wood began to dry, they exited stage right, and like Elvis, left the building.  These were some large, older growth logs, so there was heartwood.  Most of the beetle holes are in the sapwood, not the heartwood.  The wood is till good and usable, but the little holes are there.  Lets just call it character. 



 
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