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Re: Log prices
« Reply #260 on: March 25, 2021, 10:39:57 PM »
How far is the trucking?
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« Reply #261 on: March 26, 2021, 07:05:29 AM »
How far is the trucking?
That is picked up on landing for us.  I imagine that price would hold down to Augusta county if you were looking to sell some RO.  However, that is really most useful for those sticks that are either large diameter or short.  For long 15"-20" 30' top $ RO to Long Island $700 intl 
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« Reply #262 on: March 27, 2021, 11:22:44 PM »
I also thought it was 15 trees.. Whatd you mean by 15 stump cut then?


 sounds like you got normal price for normal timber, if it were where i live.  I guess we have comparable situations.
15" stump cut. Id' say your right on the similar situations.  
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Re: Log prices
« Reply #263 on: April 13, 2021, 12:28:10 PM »
So lots of news today.  

Hard Maple- wow...smoking hot.  20% increase in generic sawlog prices this week.  I don't have a stick, hardly any soft maple either.  Roughly 1200-1300 international scale for 12" or 13" 3 sided 

Walnut up 5%

White up 5%

HM is the story of the week with 2 mill sending emails begging.  
@ehp What you hear from the great north?  @BargeMonkey - time to push on the sales price, just basic logs.  Even junky stuff seems to pushing a buck.
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« Reply #264 on: April 13, 2021, 12:44:26 PM »
Itís about time that some loggers are getting paid what they are worth, especially considering the extremes that they must go through. Besides that, now they are just being able to keep up with inflation.
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« Reply #265 on: April 13, 2021, 12:52:21 PM »
Itís about time that some loggers are getting paid what they are worth, especially considering the extremes that they must go through. Besides that, now they are just being able to keep up with inflation.
I am happy for the guys in the north, lots of pulp mill closures in the last few years and they need a shot in the arm.  This should be great for MI, WI, and New England loggers
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« Reply #266 on: April 13, 2021, 03:21:22 PM »
I'm not cutting hardwood this week. I'm cutting pine and its going ok on price . The top grade is the same but I got the other grades up $50/1000 above what they were paying so I'm happy . Good hard maple has been hot here the last 6 plus months . I know I could sell all I can find at very good prices . White oak is up in sawlog price as well 

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« Reply #267 on: April 13, 2021, 08:08:47 PM »
I cant pound it fast enough, finishing up this junk job and go hammer out 8-10ld of decent hard maple and ash this week before the price drops. Places are getting pretty packed around here but the prices are still up. 

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« Reply #268 on: April 13, 2021, 08:43:20 PM »
That's good news about h.m. but warm weather is coming.

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« Reply #269 on: April 14, 2021, 06:43:36 AM »
I cant pound it fast enough, finishing up this junk job and go hammer out 8-10ld of decent hard maple and ash this week before the price drops. Places are getting pretty packed around here but the prices are still up.
AMEX is literally begging for HM logs. 
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« Reply #270 on: April 14, 2021, 06:44:26 AM »
That's good news about h.m. but warm weather is coming.
Yep, hope to get everything on the ground this month.  Then forward and sell in May, cleanup in June.
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« Reply #271 on: April 14, 2021, 07:00:20 AM »
Crossties in oak are up to $0.60 international
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« Reply #272 on: April 14, 2021, 07:53:08 AM »
Hardwood Market Report this week for tractor trailer load quantity of hardwood lumber, rough, kiln dried shows all hardwood wholesale prices are sill going up strong.  FAS white oak $3.60/bf.  Hard maple $2.63.  Soft maple $2.32.  Red oak $1.86.  Walnut $4.88.  Some comments:

Ash- Sawmills are readily moving all developing green ash production.  In fact, buyers, especially exporting concentration yards, are asking for more than mills can supply.

Cherry - Sales contacts report brisk kiln dried cherry business.

Hard maple - With white and painted finishes over tight grained whitewoods the prevailing fashion, especially in cabinets, hard maple business is booming.

Soft maple - Soft maple has gained traction in the marketplace.  Some end users that prefer hard maple, but which cannot find enough, have become more receptive to soft maple.

#2A and 3A oak.  Competition for #2A and 3A red oak and white oak is intense. 

White Oak - Sawmills and downstream operations are struggling to produce or procure enough white oak to meet demand.Virtually every grade/thickness combination of green and kiln dried white oak is scarce. 

Red Oak- Competitive pressures are pushing prices for some items to the highest levels since 2013 and 2014.

Yellow poplar- Demand for this species remains vibrant.  Consumption by the moulding/millwork industry is especially strong. 

Walnut - Shortages and robust demand are elevating market intensity for walnut.  Sales contacts indicate all grades and thicknesses are moving quickly, and they are frequently losing orders for lack of supply.  Chinese buyers are assertively purchasing walnut logs and lumber.  At the same time, demand is increasing in the US. 
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« Reply #273 on: April 14, 2021, 08:25:10 AM »
Thanks Danny.  I'll be sure to push on our walnut pricing.

Interesting thing about to occur in WO.  WO QS market traditionally prices logs much more highly than flat sawn( paying more for large logs) .  Today the flat sawn lumber is reaching QS lumber pricing and that is going to put pressure on the large WO.  I've never seen Flat sawn WO priced at QS WO pricing.  

Wondering if @YellowHammer is seeing that impact.
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« Reply #274 on: April 14, 2021, 10:35:29 AM »
I wonder for the soft maple is that just white or can it be wormy . Our wormy price for logs is quite low compared to white color

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« Reply #275 on: April 14, 2021, 12:35:54 PM »
Yes, I am seeing that, and it's already having an impact, as customers who traditionally get QS WO lumber from other vendors are now struggling to get it, for those reasons, and are buying me out as fast as I can produce it.  WO log prices have jumped, and I'm having to make adjustments.  
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« Reply #276 on: April 14, 2021, 02:46:14 PM »
Yes, I am seeing that, and it's already having an impact, as customers who traditionally get QS WO lumber from other vendors are now struggling to get it, for those reasons, and are buying me out as fast as I can produce it.  WO log prices have jumped, and I'm having to make adjustments.  
What are you paying for a 3 sided 20" type log if you don't mind me asking.
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« Reply #277 on: April 14, 2021, 05:26:36 PM »
As for us on the QS we average from $1.5-2.20 for really nice logs.  That's on the landing, they truck.  Wish we had a QS mill a bit closer because trucking is adding $1200/load.
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Re: Log prices
« Reply #278 on: April 15, 2021, 07:21:50 AM »
The soft maple price is for white only, not wormy. 
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« Reply #279 on: April 15, 2021, 08:01:51 AM »
Ok that makes sense cause our white is almost double our wormy log price . We use to get good money for wormy but not the last 2 years 


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