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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2020, 03:31:26 PM »
I'm not afraid of doing things myself in general, but i have limited experience with hydraulics.  I took the second ram off this morning and took both to the local hydraulics shop.  I think one is broken inside and the other is not.  I'm hoping the repair is half or less of purchasing 2 new rams.  New for both would be about 1300.  Unfortunately someone brought in 4 rams ahead of me for repair, so mine have to wait in line behind them.  Until then, my tractor will sit.  I will look into the contamination issue.  I bought a new filter a while back but didn't put it on yet.  Seems like a good time to buy some fluid and do the change, after rams are back on.
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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2020, 04:28:10 PM »
Price them on surplus center.  Probably 250 each or less. 
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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2020, 05:04:02 PM »
Thanks.  They will call with an estimate before they do any work and then I'll decide if I need to replace them.  Im actually looking forward to the curl not sagging when its all done.  
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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2020, 10:25:02 PM »
I always try to find cause of failure. With the forks tilted down even slightly with the load on the end of a lever and the possibility of the tractor pushing at the same time creates a pressure spike between the cylinder piston and  relief valve . The relief valve cannot dump fast enough to keep the pressure  below the engineered capacity of the cylinder.  This same dynamic can damage the relief valve just the same. 

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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2020, 10:32:28 PM »
@kiko yes, there is the possibility that the cylinders are not the problem.  IF they call me and say they are not damaged, then I will know something else is wrong.  I did wonder if something could have failed in the control valve.
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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2020, 07:07:32 AM »
If you follow your curl hoses back to the valve, theres probably a plug or cap between the hoses.  Look under there. Dont lose the pieces or forget the order.  Talking and showing the details into your video camera as you remove them always works.
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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2020, 08:43:05 AM »
If you follow your curl hoses back to the valve, theres probably a plug or cap between the hoses.  Look under there. Dont lose the pieces or forget the order.  Talking and showing the details into your video camera as you remove them always works.
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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2020, 07:32:19 PM »
I talked to the guy at the shop.  He said one rod is definitely broken and the other one is slightly bent.  I hope that means that nothing else is messed up.  He hasn't given me an estimate.
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« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2020, 12:23:46 PM »
I just approved the shop to repair my cylinders.  He is replacing both rods and seals.  Total for both will be $650.  That's exactly half of the cost to buy new ones, so I'm happy with that.  Not as happy as if I hadn't broken them, but I'll settle.  It's gonna be a week before I get them back.
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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2020, 12:32:26 PM »
If a person was in need perhaps they could disconnect the bucket hoses from the quick connect and put a couple pieces of chain or steel where the cylinders go to hold the forks level to get by in the meantime, and/or even better rear forks for the heavy ones and save the loader, front end and rims from early failure.

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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2020, 12:47:41 PM »
I believe that loader has a lifting capacity of about 1300#.
Hilltops suggesting of using 3pt. hitch forks is a good one. Not only greater lifting capacity but the tires and front hubs take a beating under load. A hyd. top link is a real plus.
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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2020, 12:54:16 PM »
A boom for the 3 pt and a set of log tongs may not be bad for lifting/loading the bigger ones. I would have a few different attachment points on the boom. Rear forks and a hydraulic top link would also prove very useful, as previously stated (not to beat a deaf horse, but  Theres more than one way to skin a calf).
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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2020, 02:53:22 PM »
The lift capacity is listed right at about 1500 lbs for the loader.  It is more than adequate for most logs I deal with.  I will just have to be more careful when pushing around logs that are too big for the lift.  I should probably put the bucket back on for those.  It works better for pushing logs around. I have thought about getting some forks for the rear too.  The added benefit being that I can keep a log on there for ballast.  
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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2020, 04:02:31 PM »
When youre really maxing out the loader, take off the forks and the bucket, and use a pair of chains. 
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« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2020, 08:34:08 PM »
Well, I finally got my cylinders back from repair and reinstalled on the loader.  All is well.  There was a moment of panic when nothing moved for a while and I thought it wasn't working.  Clearly that was just air working out of the system, because after holding the handle for about 30 seconds it starting lifting the forks.
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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2020, 08:50:02 AM »
Well, I finally got my cylinders back from repair and reinstalled on the loader.  All is well.  There was a moment of panic when nothing moved for a while and I thought it wasn't working.  Clearly that was just air working out of the system, because after holding the handle for about 30 seconds it starting lifting the forks.
Many system do self bleed out the air. But afterwards you should check your fluid levels again. With the air out the level maybe low.
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« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2020, 12:26:07 PM »
I added almost a gallon of fluid.
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Re: Broke the Curl of my loader
« Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 08:36:55 AM »
 That's not bad. Last time I had a cylinder rod bend due to broken pin I lost over 5 gals >:( :(.
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