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« on: September 10, 2020, 09:55:23 PM »
was over having a beer with my buddy Jim.  and he reminded me that he has a tree that has been half brown and getting worse over two years.  



 


 


 


 


 


 

I can add more pics if you need.  what kind of tree, what is wrong, and is there something to do about it.  thanks!
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Re: pine tree slowly dying
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2020, 10:34:11 PM »
Too many elliptical orbits around that big nuclear blob called Sol - it's happening to all of us.  ;D
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Re: pine tree slowly dying
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2020, 06:41:57 PM »
The easy and very general answer which provides no real causes is you have a pine (Ponderosa?) tree growing in an area that has no native pine trees. Trees planted outside their native range tend to have a shorter life span. 

Hows that for a non-answer? In unrelated news, Im thinking I should run for office.  ;)

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Re: pine tree slowly dying
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2020, 09:20:06 PM »
Scotch (scott} Pine?
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Re: pine tree slowly dying
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2020, 10:11:47 PM »
Nematode disease that took out our Scotch pines  here 10 years ago looks like that.

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Re: pine tree slowly dying
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2020, 05:56:27 PM »
If it is scotch pine, they do not fare well in Missouri over the years.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2020, 06:05:42 PM »
It is a landscape tree.  not sure of the species.  it has been brown for a few years.  I think nematode is fast, like brown to dead in a month or so?
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Re: pine tree slowly dying
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2020, 08:51:42 PM »
Is there a natural gas line near there?

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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2020, 09:56:03 PM »
i will have to ask.
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2020, 09:35:16 AM »
Doc, the years money maker for the Forestry Club at the U of Mo was selling Scotch Pine Christmas trees.  We had a stand on school land that we cut from, and replanted.  After a certain age they trees were no longer right for Christmas trees.  The older ones displayed the symptoms you describe.  Those would be cut to replant the area.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2020, 08:27:43 AM »
is there something to do about it? 
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Re: pine tree slowly dying
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2020, 11:16:16 AM »
is there something to do about it?
 

I always thought they were planted off site and age did not sit well with them.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2020, 03:05:17 PM »
I finally got some closer pics of the tree for ID and poss.  diagnosis.  any further thoughts.



 

 

 

found this in the tree, double needles.



 

 


 
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Re: pine tree slowly dying
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2020, 08:33:12 AM »
The egg mass on the needle is from a praying mantis.  It has nothing to do with the condition of the tree, but if you keep it, you can hatch an army of beneficial insects.

Its lower limbs were pruned in the not too distant past, causing a significant injury to the tree.  I would fare to guess that this injury opened a path for some type of fungal infection.  That infection is now blocking the transport of nutrients and water.

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2020, 09:37:38 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2020, 11:11:53 AM »
Austrian pine?
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2020, 03:35:22 PM »
thanks Tex.  I do not know, but I have those in my yard.  and it does look similar.
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2020, 08:53:28 PM »
It is a long 2-needle-to-the-fascile pine with a small ovoid cone.  It is a yellow pine.  It is not ponderosa, lodgepole, jack, shortleaf, or any other native 2 needle pine that I know of.  Might be a furriner.  Maybe I am just xenophobic. 
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2020, 09:13:58 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2020, 09:19:42 PM »
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