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spare tire mount question
« on: September 26, 2020, 09:10:46 AM »
I recently bought a spare tire for my Woodmizer LT30HDG25 sawmill. And I was wondering where I could mount this spare.
Does anyone have a picture of where they mounted theirs?

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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2020, 11:34:50 AM »
Good question I have been wondering the same thing. I was thinking maybe a mount that would go on the back end of the rail that could be removed with a hitch pin?
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2020, 12:08:19 PM »
   I moved my mill to the front lot a week ago and had a flat and have my spare on the mill right now. This is a very good question. I wonder if I can mount it with a big U-bolt tire holder like on my boat trailer tongue? I'll be watching this thread with interest.
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2020, 12:11:07 PM »
I mount mine in the back of my truck. Just before I leave I throw it and the truck spare in the bed. When I get home I throw them back out!!
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2020, 12:51:45 PM »
MH,

   I do that too but I'd rather only load it one more time if I had the option. :D
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2020, 02:48:54 PM »
I could never find a place on the sawmill where the spare could be permanently mounted without filling up with sawdust and I was/am not interested in dealing with it on every setup and tear down. 


 
So I carry my spare in the back of the truck between the fuel/lube jugs and the truck and secure it with straps.


 
In 19 years of portable sawing I used the spare for the first/only time this year.
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2020, 05:48:24 PM »
OldJarhead had a tire mount custom made on page 44 of his thread: 

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  Message by OlJarhead on May 29, 2017, 11:52:05 AM 
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2020, 01:25:29 PM »
Good question and I will be interested in what ideas come up.
Remember it needs to be such that it does not interfere when adding an extension bed to the mill.
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2020, 09:20:31 PM »
In short, weld a plate to a steel square tube that fits inside the leg.  Weld 2 bolts to the plate that you can bolt the spare too and then drop it into place once the leg is raised for travel :)  Works like a charm.



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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2020, 08:39:36 AM »
Oljarhead, I like the gas can rack on the rear of the mill.  

It can be a challenge to not forget the spare, jack or lug wrench. 
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2020, 08:48:42 AM »
After reading this I may rethink my spare tire carry.  I can't do Erik's mod because I have FAO's but there may be another option.  I have never liked my present "back of the truck" carry.

I bet that there is a very simple solution that I am overlooking.  ::)
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2020, 05:45:16 PM »
Can it go underneath just ahead of the axle? Use a GM truck spare tire crank cable thingy. 
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2020, 07:24:39 PM »
I used to just put my spare over the front backstop on my 2001 lt40 super. 
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2020, 09:34:58 AM »
The thing I like about mine is that it is seconds off or on.  Just pull up and lay on the ground away from mill.  When finished just set it back in place :)

I will get some pics for ya
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2020, 12:53:38 PM »
I bet that there is a very simple solution that I am overlooking.
 
If you have a removable hitch, make a mount that is attached to that.  Remove the hitch and tire all in one.  Another option would be to attach a mount to one of your fenders that you normally remove every time.  Or, you fold over your log loader on the bed?  Make a mount on that that (Tom) plugs in.  Raise the loader to vertical, pull a pin (like a hitch pin) and set aside with your fenders when you are setting up.
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2020, 07:34:46 PM »
 

 
I tried this today.  The spare sat nicely in the operator's seat foot well and I secured it to the folded up step so it is secure.

Problem is that I carry my wheel chocks and leveling boards in that foot well, so this probably will not be the "final answer".
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2020, 09:47:26 AM »
First of all thanks for all the pictures and suggestions.

I wanted my spare tire mount to be something that I wouldn't have to add to the mill and remove from the mill when packing up to do a "on site" job.
I wanted it to be there all the time when sawing or traveling.

Many years ago, about 20 years, I bought a small camping travel trailer to use for different events:



 
As you can see I had a spare tire mounted on the frame in front of the trailer.
I used a "U" bolt to hold it to a bracket I made just to hold the tire.
Long ago, I gave the trailer to a fellow who had helped me out a lot on fixing my plow truck.
He didn't want the spare tire. It is brand new, as it has never been on the road, ever.
I had this spare in a pile of other spares in the bushes near my shop/office.
I figured I could use that "U" bolt again.
Now to just get it off the camping trailer spare:



 

 

I had been in the bushes so long that a bush grew up through the spoke holes.
What I time I had getting that out of the weeds.
But I did manage to get the "U" bolt back.
Next, I needed a bracket that was strong and not wooden like the last one.
I was concerned that a wooden one could split while traveling down the road.
I found a piece of flat bar and got a friend to punch two holes through it this morning at his welding shop.
I just finished mounting it to the mill:


 
There it is on the front diagonal bar between the main frame and the first bed rail.
I wanted to be able to get it off without laying down on the ground to undo the lug nuts. And to be able to see the lug nuts to make sure that the bracket is tight.
I will have to see how this goes when I take it down the road, but as of right now it looks good to me.
And the front movable bed rail clears the top of the "U" bolt, which was one concern I had.
I'm just sharing this for anyone else to use on their mill.

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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2020, 10:06:25 AM »
Jim, there is a lot of leverage on that bolt from the tire weight and how off-center you mounted it.  Can you do it through the lug holes in the rim so it will be more centered?  Or will it interfere with what looks like a cable behind the tire?
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2020, 11:20:49 AM »
Jim, there is a lot of leverage on that bolt from the tire weight and how off-center you mounted it.  Can you do it through the lug holes in the rim so it will be more centered?  Or will it interfere with what looks like a cable behind the tire?
I agree, and I would find a piece of angle instead of a flat strap, as it won't bend so easy and come loose. If your ever in the area, I would weld an angle or c channel on there for you! Once something comes loose, vibration can turn a nut loose to the point of falling off in minutes. 
Turning the bracket like you have it is good, puts the u bolt next to the frame, but if it isn't welded in place it will turn, bend, and loosen up.
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2020, 11:30:16 AM »
J  Can you do it through the lug holes in the rim so it will be more centered?  Or will it interfere with what looks like a cable behind the tire?
I could have but that moves the tire back under the tube to the point where the top of the u-bolt effect the moving log rest. I most likely will double nut it. the cable has never been used.
I agree with a piece of angle iron and I may upgrade to that after I see how it travels once or twice.
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2020, 06:13:24 PM »
   Looks wonky to me. :-\ I'd center the U-bolt in the lug nut holes as that is how they are designed to fit snug and I'd find a bigger piece of square stock on the mill to keep it from sliding or rotating or I'd fill in the gap between the metal and the sides of the U-bolt so it could not rotate or slide. (I bet you know somebody who could cut you a piece of wood that size. :D) It does not look secure to me right now. Looks like it is going to slide and bounce around and would knock the rest of the paint off and it would rust badly and quickly. 
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2020, 03:43:50 PM »
I'm glad that you posed this question Jim.  My Reply #5 showed how I had been carrying my spare and Reply #15 showed an alternative that I tried.  I knew that #15 was not gonna work because it took up traveling space that I had been using.  My latest endeavor seems head bonking simple and I believe that it may be the winner for me.



A 2" ratchet strap securing the tire tightly to the sawmill frame and then a 1" strap serving as a safety/secondary strap.  Since the spare will be removed while sawing it won't be a trap for sawdust & bark while sawing.
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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2020, 05:06:54 PM »
After all the words of caution, I have been thinking about buying a proper spare tire mount. They sell them at harbor freight as well as many other places.
I may get one of those and see if I can attach it in a fashion that won't interfere with my movable bed rail and low enough so that it is below the main bed rails, but not so low that it will hit the ground.
I just bought two nuts to double nut the "U" bolt and got the wrong thread pattern. I'll have to take one off and go to the store and get others that match the threads, if I'm going to continue to use that "U"bolt.

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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2020, 06:36:59 PM »
Lynn,

   Looks secure but not for me. I'm looking for a place and way to mount my spare tire one time on the mill and never touch it again till I have a flat just like on my truck or my boat trailer. I don't want to load and unload every time I move the mill which I would have to do as shown.  :(

   We can always use more space but right now my mill spare tire is the first thing I load on my truck, I load tools and fuel cans and leveling boards and such around and lower in the truck bed than it but I never touch it again till I finish my job and unload it again at the barn after I finish the job. 

   I combat load my truck with the bands being loaded last as they are the first thing I need at the sawing site. The items I take as insurance but hope not to need go on first and normally never move unless something breaks. I'll bet you a full bowl of cheese grits you do the same way with the first things you need loaded last for immediate access.  ;)

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Re: spare tire mount question
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2020, 08:07:29 PM »
I have had a "permanent" mount as shown in Reply #5 for several years.  My problem has always been that it was secured with straps and was subject to shifting, plus it took up truck bed space.  I have always been unwilling to mount it permanently under the trapezoid on the front or the back.  Sure a solid cover would keep the top clean but I don't want to loose any of the trapezoid on either end.

I can always put it back in the truck bed but I'll try this latest arrangement and see how it works out.
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2020, 04:43:20 PM »
 

 finally got the poc you needed :)  hope its not too late
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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2020, 09:37:37 AM »
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