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Re: Homemade skidder
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2020, 08:45:38 AM »
I would not be in a hurry to change tires, even w/cracks they would be better than a radial tire. I built one with semi tires did not hold up. Went to back hoe tires which held up great.

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Re: Homemade skidder
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2020, 10:33:52 AM »

Please, what is this "Deuce" you speak of?
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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2020, 10:48:57 AM »
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Re: Homemade skidder
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2020, 10:53:46 AM »
The Duce is a military 2 1/2 ton 6x6 truck.  usually called a duce and a half.
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Re: Homemade skidder
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2020, 10:54:15 AM »

Please, what is this "Deuce" you speak of?
I'm talking about the military "Deuce and a half" 6x6 truck. It's a 2-1/2 ton truck hence the nickname Deuce and a a half. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M35_series_2%C2%BD-ton_6x6_cargo_truck

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Re: Homemade skidder
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2020, 11:05:45 AM »
This appears to be an old GMC M135 single wheel.  The wheel don't have enough dish to install dualls and without the original auto transm it is real low geared as the transfer case is only for 4X4.  High & low range was built into the transmission  I worked on these in my early mechanic days for Uncle Sam.
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« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2020, 11:18:58 AM »
This appears to be an old GMC M135 single wheel.  The wheel don't have enough dish to install dualls and without the original auto transm it is real low geared as the transfer case is only for 4X4.  High & low range was built into the transmission  I worked on these in my early mechanic days for Uncle Sam.
The transfer case used has Hi/lo as well as 4wd/2wd. I think the transmission itself is not from the Deuce; it has a GM casting number on it that I need to look up.

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« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2020, 11:40:27 AM »
Are the axles Rockwell 2.5tons or GMC 2.5 tons?


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« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2020, 01:39:15 PM »
Are the axles Rockwell 2.5tons or GMC 2.5 tons?
I'm not sure I'd know what the difference is...?

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Re: Homemade skidder
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2020, 01:45:20 PM »
6 lug budd with square tube and a toploader chunk is rockwell. 6.xx ratio.  

A cast iron high-neutral-low gm tcase is likely to be np205 if its all gear .. Thatll have 2 shift forks with 3 position each. Or an np208 if its planetary.  Passenger side drop. 

If divorced passenger drop it probably has some ford input parts. 
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« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2020, 01:52:28 PM »
GMC axles have the same wheel pattern and similar gear ratio, but round tubes and a removable third member like a ford 9". Also a cover that looks like a tic-tac-toe board.

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Re: Homemade skidder
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2020, 02:07:55 PM »
Thats right.. Theyre like an overgrown eaton HO72 with a ribbed ring gear cover. Forgot about those.  Not too common. 
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« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2020, 02:48:32 PM »
OK, here are some (not so great quality) pics I ran out and took. First of all, it's not an NP205 or 208 transfer case. This thing is huge and has two rear output shafts and a passenger side drop for the front. My photo of this was way too bad to post so I'll have to try to get another one later.

Here is the winch from the left side: 




And again from the right:




It's made from what appears to be the same axles as what is on the machine. Front:




And rear:




I don't know if this helps in identifying the axles used...?

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« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2020, 03:28:28 PM »
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Re: Homemade skidder
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2020, 03:36:33 PM »
Ford AA4000.  Very old.

AA-4000 Rear Axle Parts Group | AAFords-FMAATC
Yah? Are you saying for the winch or for the axles as well? Because I wasn't aware that Model AA trucks came 4WD...? Also, all the photos on the page you linked shows 5 lug nuts where my axles have 6.

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Re: Homemade skidder
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2020, 04:31:01 PM »
G503 1 1/2 ton axles

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Re: Homemade skidder
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2020, 07:20:06 PM »
Okay, I know what a deuce and a half is/was, I was raised an Army brat. I never heard them referred to as a "deuce".  We weren't allowed to hang around the motor pool, I guess that is why.
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Re: Homemade skidder
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2020, 07:32:01 PM »
Looks like a GMC 2.5 ton CCKW split axle. Very old, very fragile, and parts are expensive IF you can find them.

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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2020, 08:32:28 PM »
I think there more like 1 1/2 ton Timken 🤔


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