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The new type "SAFETY" gas can.
« on: October 08, 2020, 03:40:34 PM »
I was in need of a 1 gallon gas can and this is what i am stuck with today, it's about worthless not simple to get hose nozzle in it some type of mesh filter you can't remove, and getting any gas to flow out of it is a real task have to grab and pull something and then very little flows out.

Years ago you could find really good gas cans with great nozzles, think there was a spill and fire and after the law suit, the Company went out of business.

Then these new "safety" gas cans started showing up, i still have a few of the older 2&5 gallon cans but not a 1 gallon.

Sure are Government is looking out for me......NOT!!!!!

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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2020, 03:53:06 PM »
I like NO-SPILL™ gas cans...

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I'd buy them by choice, even if the old crappy gas cans were still around. They pour fast, and don't spill. Metal cans have a certain nostalgia factor, but they really were junk. Get rusty, and stuff gets a little bent, so you can't thread the dribble spouts on as well, and the dribble turns into a light stream.

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Re: The new type "SAFETY" gas can.
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2020, 04:05:38 PM »
https://www.amazon.ca/Husqvarna-Combi-Can-Chainsaw-Equipment/dp/B00T031DAE/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

I bought one of these Husky deals and it worked for a while - then started dripping as I mentioned in my posted review on the Amazon site..
Back to regular 10 litre Jerry can and spout for me now - no advantage and $50 poorer from expecting a Husqvarna quality piece and not finding any improvement over the old way of doing things..

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Re: The new type "SAFETY" gas can.
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2020, 04:34:32 PM »
lxskllr, I like those a well.  not so much the 5 gallon, but the 2.5 gallon is right with the stihl oil mix.  you can shut it off without having to tip the jug up. perfect for chainsaws.  the scepter looks like the nozzle holds more fuel than the can.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2020, 04:54:08 PM »
I got the 5G solely for filling my lawnmower. The gas tank's hard to get to, so you have to eyeball the pour to get it in the hole, and that works about as well as you'd expect. The can will probably pay for itself in a couple years of spills. I use a 1.25G can for my saws and stuff. I've never used that much fuel in a day, so it works out well for me. I fill it from a 5G can.

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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2020, 05:58:45 PM »
I like NO-SPILL™ gas cans...

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We sell that kind at work. Took us a few cans to figure out what was good and what was not. 
Should be a you  tube on the cans too. Even works on a shot glass.
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2020, 06:15:21 PM »
I have that can that lxskir uses in a 1.25 gallon I use for my chainsaw and as Doc said, I like it for fueling the saw, only overfill/spill when my brain goes numb as it does sometimes. ;D


 

The size is just about right for me as the mixed gas in generally not in there long enough to develop 'issues'. Seems like every time I pick it up it is getting ready to refill.
 But I did get one of these old ones a month two ago I would like to try out. It is the old school version of the one Husky is selling now. 
 



  I am still searching for nozzles to fit it so I can give it a good run. Right now I carry the gas can above and a gallon jug of bar oil around. Would just like to try having them in the same jug with one handle. If anybody has nozzles laying around, this one has threads that measure about 1.80" major diameter (OD) and somewhere between 1.60 and 1.65 Minor Diameter (ID). It's hard to measure for sure, but I think it leans toward 1.65. Love to try this jug out, it's a nice heavy plastic with low miles, not like the thin stuff they make now.
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2020, 10:14:20 PM »
I like the no spill to.  I also have a few of the old style with vent .  I buy 12-15 gallons of ethonal free premium at a time. Lasts 1-2 weeks. I keep my chainsaw scrench attached to the one mixed with oil for all the twocycle engines.  2 gallons at a time for saws, weedeater  and blower in the 2.5 gallon no spill.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2020, 10:43:00 PM »
I bought one of the Husky combo cans the thing leaked horribly on the bar oil side until I realized I had the spout cross threaded😁 Works great now😊 I have several of the No-Spill cans, I think they're awesome. Even better than the old style spout and vent cans 
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2020, 11:01:21 PM »
The OP's pic of the gas can is what happens when you have a thrupple with a bean counter, an engineer and a safety expert.

I'm a sucker for the old school double plastic cans;bar oil on one side, gas mix on the other. Their downfall was when the aforementioned thrupple happened. The last set I bought from Bailey's had a really bizarre spout system. You had to turn a collar and then push down on the spout. Hated that from the start. My local farm store has a couple of aftermarket spout assemblies that are pretty good at fixing up old cans.

I still have some metal cans....one is quite elaborate. They forgot to punch out the spout at the factory, so the guy I bought it from had never poured gas through it. Yeah, they rust and what not......but since gasoline is about the most volatile substance you can handle, there was always some comfort in stout metal cans. Other than that, I can make no arguments for......

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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2020, 09:00:42 AM »
You can also stuff a scrench and file into the creases on the double can.  Its handy. 
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2020, 11:45:26 AM »
I just suck it up and go spend 9.00$ at the local hardware store for the aftermarket flexible spouts to make new cans useable. The springloaded safety spout gets recycled......

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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2020, 12:17:54 PM »
You can also stuff a scrench and file into the creases on the double can.  Its handy.
Any well-made wedge pouch is gonna have a place for a scrench, file, screwdriver and Spencer tape.

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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2020, 01:05:36 PM »
some of the after market spouts come with 2 thread pitches to fit any can.  
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2020, 03:58:51 PM »
My 2.5 gallon no spill gas can is my go to gas can for my saws. Have had that can for 10 or 15 years still works great.  Have a five gallon no spill and two five gallon old Sears plastic gas cans that are my mower, splitter and old tractor gas cans. 

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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2020, 07:19:11 PM »
I was in need of a 1 gallon gas can and this is what i am stuck with today, it's about worthless not simple to get hose nozzle in it some type of mesh filter you can't remove, and getting any gas to flow out of it is a real task have to grab and pull something and then very little flows out.

Years ago you could find really good gas cans with great nozzles, think there was a spill and fire and after the law suit, the Company went out of business.

Then these new "safety" gas cans started showing up, i still have a few of the older 2&5 gallon cans but not a 1 gallon.

Sure are Government is looking out for me......NOT!!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2020, 07:26:37 PM »
This is my old 2.5 Gal. Steel Eagle gas can i just put it back in service.

 

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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2020, 09:59:19 PM »
I've got two of the older style plastic "blitz" cans for the mix gas .2 and 2.5 gallon .The larger are either government "GI " cans or 5 gallon metal .I'm not very  fond of so called safety cans .If you can't hit the hole use a funnel .How simple is that.
I usually keep about 20 gallons on hand, tractor, Jeep .lawnmower etc .The closest gas station is about three miles but that doesn't help you much when a storm puts the lights out .That's when you get a flashlight and hook up the generator but that takes gasoline you know .Mine, a 5 kw runs about 8 hours on 5 gallons of gasoline under a normal load condition .

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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2020, 11:31:34 PM »
Here is what I was talking about. This is a good product...has made all my assortment of plastic cans work again. The one picture you see has an extension on the spout to get two ft.....doesn't leak either. There is also an adapter you can buy to put on a 5gal Jerry can and use this spout....pretty slick.

In the package shown, they give you two different threaded pour caps....the company is really trying to get you back in the field.

The double can is from Bailey's...although the can itself says Briggs & Stratton...wretched spouts....one came completely apart with the spring and everything but I managed to snap it all back together again. Caps were lost the first week I owned it.


 

 


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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2020, 11:45:15 PM »
I have that can that lxskir uses in a 1.25 gallon I use for my chainsaw and as Doc said, I like it for fueling the saw, only overfill/spill when my brain goes numb as it does sometimes. ;D

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The size is just about right for me as the mixed gas in generally not in there long enough to develop 'issues'. Seems like every time I pick it up it is getting ready to refill.
 But I did get one of these old ones a month two ago I would like to try out. It is the old school version of the one Husky is selling now.
 
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  I am still searching for nozzles to fit it so I can give it a good run. Right now I carry the gas can above and a gallon jug of bar oil around. Would just like to try having them in the same jug with one handle. If anybody has nozzles laying around, this one has threads that measure about 1.80" major diameter (OD) and somewhere between 1.60 and 1.65 Minor Diameter (ID). It's hard to measure for sure, but I think it leans toward 1.65. Love to try this jug out, it's a nice heavy plastic with low miles, not like the thin stuff they make now.
You might have a problem with those doubles. Find out who made them and Goggle it to death. Or look for some used one like yours on eBay that are complete.
The replacement set I picture above would probably not fit on your double set up....they don't work on my present Bailey's double.

Your set looks like one I had once....again, bought from Bailey's. I gave up on new spouts, but companies are trying to accommodate old cans now.

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2020, 05:01:50 AM »
You can get vents for new style cans also. I did that for my older 5G cans. I had one good old style spout that fit all the cans, so when I emptied a can, I'd swap the spout over. Without a vent, they'd glug. Drill a hole a hair under ˝" and stick it in. That's to make sure it's tight. I think I used 15/32"

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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2020, 06:45:08 AM »
You might have a problem with those doubles. Find out who made them and Goggle it to death. Or look for some used one like yours on eBay that are complete.
The replacement set I picture above would probably not fit on your double set up....they don't work on my present Bailey's double.

Your set looks like one I had once....again, bought from Bailey's. I gave up on new spouts, but companies are trying to accommodate old cans now.

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Kevin, the can I have is made by Wedco Industries in Canada. It looks very similar to the one in your last photo except for the vent arrangement. I wonder what the OD of the threads on your can measure?
 I don't think I could use a vented cap on the oil side it would make me nuts and I would have a lot of spilled oil. I need to see what I am pouring. I am getting used to it on the gas side because I can hear the change in sound with the gas and now when I am near topping off. Not so with the oil.
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2020, 09:48:45 AM »
I've got one of those double plastic jugs I found in the woods I've never used .Evidently who ever owned it wasn't  too fond of it else they wouldn't have left it .

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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2020, 11:08:30 AM »
You might have a problem with those doubles. Find out who made them and Goggle it to death. Or look for some used one like yours on eBay that are complete.
The replacement set I picture above would probably not fit on your double set up....they don't work on my present Bailey's double.

Your set looks like one I had once....again, bought from Bailey's. I gave up on new spouts, but companies are trying to accommodate old cans now.

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Kevin, the can I have is made by Wedco Industries in Canada. It looks very similar to the one in your last photo except for the vent arrangement. I wonder what the OD of the threads on your can measure?
 I don't think I could use a vented cap on the oil side it would make me nuts and I would have a lot of spilled oil. I need to see what I am pouring. I am getting used to it on the gas side because I can hear the change in sound with the gas and now when I am near topping off. Not so with the oil.
The present Bailey's set I pictured has a vent built into both the spouts; oil and gas mix. They pour OK, but you have to hold down the 'plunger' spout on both of them while filling. I've never gone back to Bailey's to see if they offer replacement spouts because I hate these.

If it helps you any, I can measure the OD of the spout threads in either US or metric.

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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2020, 11:17:45 AM »
You can get vents for new style cans also. I did that for my older 5G cans. I had one good old style spout that fit all the cans, so when I emptied a can, I'd swap the spout over. Without a vent, they'd glug. Drill a hole a hair under ˝" and stick it in. That's to make sure it's tight. I think I used 15/32"
I was going to mic that vent body and see what drill to use to make it tight....thanks for that. The 5gal can pictured has no vent. Hard to say what it had originally....probably a vent arrangement in the spout.

My son just gave me the can...I have no idea where he got it. Plastic gas cans are a dime a dozen to me, but I decided to re-spout all mine if at all possible. The ones that have no caps, I just plug with rubber stoppers. In the sun, sometimes they blow the stoppers out and are nearly impossible to find.

I have an old Eagle metal can, that one that became synonymous for 'Eagle'. They reproduce the original funky spout and sell on eBay. I've had a few, but the plastic is terrible; too stiff, especially in cold weather and they don't last....they also leak because the plastic is too stiff to seal properly.

Also, the insert cap(like the original) can swell and become impossible to take out without a tool.

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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2020, 12:12:11 PM »
I haven't used the Husky dual can a lot, but I like it. You stick the spout in the tank, press the can down to activate the plunger in the spout. The level comes up and turns off automatically. To me, that's a great feature, as I almost always overfill my fuel and oil tanks and spill all over😬 They flow plenty fast, too- even the bar oil, which kind of surprised me.
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2020, 01:37:15 PM »
If i were a betting man i would bet that more people are badly injured maybe even killed, by these new type "safe type"gas cans then by their own chainsaws.

They might be spill proof if knocked over, but in trying to use their safety unlocking  systems when trying to fill a fuel tank this is where the problems start happening.

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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2020, 03:05:00 PM »
If the dual cans just had conventional angled spouts with screw caps tethered to them, that would be perfect for me. But the thrupple had other ideas.......

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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2020, 03:28:22 PM »
Those plastic vents will leak after a while.  I bought some to replace them off Amazon that look like regular bolt in tire valves.  You put one of the nuts on the inside (rides a wire into place), and it has a washer that keeps it from leaking.

Remembering this thread, I thought to take a couple of pictures yesterday.  This is my favorite one gallon gas can.  I'll take any bet that I can spill less gas with it than anyone with one of the newer ones.  I liked it so much that I bought spares, when I could get them.  I try to keep it out of the Sunlight.

The five gallon jug has one of the tire valve type vents I was talking about.  It also has a spout sold by someone on ebay.  I'll take any bet about spilling less gas than the newer types with it too.  You leave the rubber fuel line in the filler neck of whatever you're filling, and just lower the jug when it's full.

I have two brands of those 5 gallon jugs.  I like the Midwest the best, because you reuse the washer in the filler cap that came with the jug, and the Midwest washer secures itself around the machined aluminum part by the maker/ebay seller.

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Those plastic vents will leak after a while.  I bought some to replace them off Amazon that look like regular bolt in tire valves.  You put one of the nuts on the inside (rides a wire into place), and it has a washer that keeps it from leaking.

Remembering this thread, I thought to take a couple of pictures yesterday.  This is my favorite one gallon gas can.  I'll take any bet that I can spill less gas with it than anyone with one of the newer ones.  I liked it so much that I bought spares, when I could get them.  I try to keep it out of the Sunlight.

The five gallon jug has one of the tire valve type vents I was talking about.  It also has a spout sold by someone on ebay.  I'll take any bet about spilling less gas than the newer types with it too.  You leave the rubber fuel line in the filler neck of whatever you're filling, and just lower the jug when it's full.

I have two brands of those 5 gallon jugs.  I like the Midwest the best, because you reuse the washer in the filler cap that came with the jug, and the Midwest washer secures itself around the machined aluminum part by the maker/ebay seller.

No fuel can police around here.
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2020, 05:58:43 PM »
'll take any bet that I can spill less gas with it than anyone with one of the newer ones.
 

I'd totally take that bet. I can tip the NO-SPILL 160°, stick the spout into whatever I'm filling, then push the button allowing everything from a trickle to a deluge. Let off the button, and it's back to being a sealed container.

These are the vents I got...

Amazon.com: JSP Manufacturing Pick a Pack Yellow Fuel Gas Can Vent Cap Chilton Briggs Rotopax Gott Anchor Multipack Pricing (10): Garden & Outdoor

Certainly not a lifetime piece, but they're cheap, and I have a bunch of spares. I can pry the old one out, and stick in a new one. No leaks so far.

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Re: The new type "SAFETY" gas can.
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2020, 07:16:29 PM »
Those plastic vents will leak after a while.  I bought some to replace them off Amazon that look like regular bolt in tire valves.  You put one of the nuts on the inside (rides a wire into place), and it has a washer that keeps it from leaking.

Remembering this thread, I thought to take a couple of pictures yesterday.  This is my favorite one gallon gas can.  I'll take any bet that I can spill less gas with it than anyone with one of the newer ones.  I liked it so much that I bought spares, when I could get them.  I try to keep it out of the Sunlight.

The five gallon jug has one of the tire valve type vents I was talking about.  It also has a spout sold by someone on ebay.  I'll take any bet about spilling less gas than the newer types with it too.  You leave the rubber fuel line in the filler neck of whatever you're filling, and just lower the jug when it's full.

I have two brands of those 5 gallon jugs.  I like the Midwest the best, because you reuse the washer in the filler cap that came with the jug, and the Midwest washer secures itself around the machined aluminum part by the maker/ebay seller.

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Tom,
Is this what you bought?
https://www.amazon.com/EONLION-Stainless-Steel-Faster-Proof/dp/B08F5CRYN9/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=gas+tank+vent&qid=1602360357&sr=8-7

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Yes, that's it.  After it came, I recognized them as being like "bolt in" tire air valves.  

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Re: The new type "SAFETY" gas can.
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2020, 07:24:14 PM »
'll take any bet that I can spill less gas with it than anyone with one of the newer ones.


I'd totally take that bet. I can tip the NO-SPILL 160°, stick the spout into whatever I'm filling, then push the button allowing everything from a trickle to a deluge. Let off the button, and it's back to being a sealed container.

These are the vents I got...

Amazon.com: JSP Manufacturing Pick a Pack Yellow Fuel Gas Can Vent Cap Chilton Briggs Rotopax Gott Anchor Multipack Pricing (10): Garden & Outdoor

Certainly not a lifetime piece, but they're cheap, and I have a bunch of spares. I can pry the old one out, and stick in a new one. No leaks so far.
Those yellow flapper vents were the kind I used to use, but after some number of years, they all started leaking around where they snap into the jug, and replacing them with new ones didn't stop the leaking. Those spouts from the ebay seller come with black ones, but they didn't last as long as the yellow ones.  I have a lot of spares too, but they won't ever get used unless someone else wants them.
For my diesel jugs, I put two vents in each, since I have to hold those higher than my gas jugs, for what they're used on, but I didn't put just one in one to see if there was any difference.  The fuel does flow out fast though.  Interestingly, those yellow vents have not started leaking on my diesel jugs, but all the gas jugs developed leaks around them.
With the flexible spouts, that don't require a button to be pushed, I can use both hands to hold the 5 gallon jug.  I don't say that they're better than anything else, but I like them best, and can fill anything without spilling a drop.


Here's an old picture when they had the yellow vents in them.  They've all been changed now.


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Re: The new type "SAFETY" gas can.
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2020, 09:02:04 PM »
For filling something like a tractor from a 5 gallon can the clear ticket is a jiggle siphon.  I unscrew the spout off of the gas can and put it aside.  I then sit the can higher up on the hood.  Insert the jiggle siphon and give it a few shakes and then I walk away while the fuel siphons into the tractor. I use that siphon for the skid steer, too.  Its slick as heck!

For the small 1 or 2 gallon gas cans, I use the old style cans without that nasty CARB compliant fill spout.  I hate them.  If you hit garage sales you can find the old style cans with the good spouts.  Otherwise, you can get them out of Canada too.

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Re: The new type "SAFETY" gas can.
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2020, 09:56:38 PM »
Yep, those jiggle siphons are handy👍
Too many irons in the fire


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