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Greenhouse - inserting plastic glass into frame
« on: November 03, 2020, 01:01:57 PM »
Hello, I am buiding a timberframe greenhouse and I am looking for a solution on how to insert plastic glass into the frame itself (except roof). I was thinking about a solution where I will cut an approx. 1 inch(2.5cm) groove into the frame on all sides and insert the glass while rising the frame. Check out the picture for explanation. What I am a little bit afraid is whether the plastic glass wont break once the frame start moving/twisting due to drying. Do you think this is a feasible solution? I do not want to spend ages trying to make gazilion window frames so this looks like a fast solution on how to solve this issue. Any ideas guys?




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Re: Greenhouse - inserting plastic glass into frame
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2020, 01:13:57 PM »
how will you change it later when it gets cloudy or broken?  I would set up the frame.  insert the plastic with a cleat on the front and back, held with nails or screws so it can be installed after the frame is up, and be changed as needed.  could use quarter round.
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Re: Greenhouse - inserting plastic glass into frame
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2020, 02:51:06 PM »
+1 what doc said. Cleats are the way to go
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Re: Greenhouse - inserting plastic glass into frame
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2020, 04:48:33 PM »
how will you change it later when it gets cloudy or broken?  I would set up the frame.  insert the plastic with a cleat on the front and back, held with nails or screws so it can be installed after the frame is up, and be changed as needed.  could use quarter round.
Thanks. Yes, you are right that changing the windows could be a nightmare if made as I suggested. I am not exactly sure what the cleat is as I am not an English native speaker. However I am a little bit worried if this does not take a lot of work, I am also not a big fan of nails and screws as I try to do everything without them.

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Re: Greenhouse - inserting plastic glass into frame
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2020, 04:59:22 PM »
That is an issue that lives between your ears. Are you registering how many artificial limitations you are putting on the design, no window frames because it is time consuming, no fasteners because, why exactly? However, you can machine a rabbet that the glazing drops into from the outside and then use glazing points and glazing compound on the outside, like a traditional window. That said it is not a good idea to try to glaze to timbers directly, as you are suspecting, as they move it is more likely to fail. 
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Re: Greenhouse - inserting plastic glass into frame
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2020, 08:06:24 PM »
a cleat can be a strip of wood that makes a frame on the inside and outside of the plastic window.  to hold the front and the back.  with small nails, it can be removed on one side to replace window material.  you are making the "groove"  with two strips of removable wood.
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Re: Greenhouse - inserting plastic glass into frame
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2020, 01:13:38 AM »
Where are you from?  The user name sounds Icelandic or Netherlands, or Sweden maybe?  You can put your state or country in your profile and it will show up by your name in every post.

I would build your plastic glass wall on the inside of the frame, with wood or Aluminum.  A green house can be humid and if the timbers are exposed to that, they might grow mold, or the worst case, fungii.  Thats why I'd build the wall on the inside of the timberframe.  You can attach your cleats or window frame material to the timberframe with Stainless or Silicon Bronze screws (my favorite because they are strong and will not react with wood).  I found that Boat builders use Silicon bronze screws so I started using them for wood working projects where I didn't want reaction between screws and wood.  Online, the cost is pretty fair.  Silicon Bronze is not soft like Brass and won't shear off easily like stainless can.  I use the slotted head ones to give the impression of being older, but there are other drive styles.
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