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New to milling trying to make a decision
« on: November 21, 2020, 09:28:08 PM »
Ive been searching the forum for a while now trying to do some comparisons on mills and I think I've narrowed it down to 2 mills.  Both are Woodmizers the LT35 Hyd and a LT40 right now with the rebate on the LT35 it makes it pretty appealing for a first timer.  Just wondering if I'll regret not going with the 40 right off?  I dont plan on running this mill full time by any means but plan on milling out boards for 3 building projects I have currently planned right now with more to come in the future I'm sure.  Thanks for any input you guys might have   

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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2020, 09:38:51 PM »
The 35 is a great mill, started with one and still own it. The current 35 has even more bells and whistles than my 8 year old model.  In many ways the current production 35 offers more than many older 40's, so there is a lot of value there. 

Guess it comes down to your budget.  I started my business with my 35, others started with a 15, so you won't be short changing yourself by any means.  

In my opinion, if you want the additional performance difference then you need to jump up to a Super 40 to have the board drag back, faster hydraulics, etc.  But then if you are a 1 man operation without an edger behind you I don't think you can maximize on that additional output capacity. 
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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2020, 09:59:24 PM »
Thanks for the response I've been leaning towards the 35 more and more.  Talking to the guys at Woodmizer of Maine really helped also with a lot of the small details but it really comes down to if I run the mill alone I can only produce so fast and it seems the 35 would fit the bill for what Im planning on doing.  As for used 40's I kinda felt that for used money I can buy a new 35 and most of the used 40's I've found are in the 90's and I kinda assumed a new 35 will perform as good or better than a 40 of that era just due to newer technology.  Idk

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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2020, 10:12:48 PM »
One advantage the 35 has over the 40 is the single mast makes putting on or removing a band a lot easier.  Downside is the head is not as stout as the one on the 40, but without a drag back it's a non issue.

You can't tell the difference between the lumber coming off of my 35 or my Super 70.  
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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2020, 07:19:03 AM »
So I also looked at a Norwood HD36 mill and thought about converting it to full hydraulic and the cost would land somewhere between an LT35 and LT40 new.  Im skeptical of trying to build a mill for that cost but maybe the norwood mills are just as good as the woodmizers  ??? idk.  Anyone have any hands on experience with them I've never seen one first hand and I've seen a bunch of wood mizers thats why I'm leaning more that way. 

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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2020, 07:51:44 AM »
Ive got the hd36 and so far Im pretty happy with it. I bought it as a manual with power feed and power head , 23hp engine and 1 bed extension. (unfortunately the power feed has been on back order.) also got the trailer package and extra leveling jacks. Assembly  took 2 weekends. Probably could have done it faster, but I took my time to be sure everything was done exactly as the instructions said. Total price with shipping was about $14,000. Im getting ready to add the hydraulic pump, hydraulic clamping and chain turner. Thats going to be somewhere around $6500. 
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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2020, 06:19:49 PM »
Most of these mills listed are not available until spring hard to believe guess I'll have to put a deposit on one and wait

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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2020, 09:03:20 PM »
my LT 35 HD Gas has been great this year!  I enjoy milling with it.  like others have said, if your going to go bigger you need to go to a wide head super to make it worth the upgrade...  but when milling on your own like I do you can just only do so much.  you will still be able to crank out a lot of lumber in a day on your own for sure once you get used to it.

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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2020, 03:26:35 PM »
The LT 35 Hydraulic is a very capable mill.  If I have good logs and good help, I can consistently saw 250-300 board feet an hour with mine.  I studied on the LT 40 Hydraulic and didnt see enough difference to justify the price.

The step up to the LT 40 Super Hydraulic would definitely be worth it if you can swing the price.  

But as much mill as you can afford and/or justify.  

Without sufficient hydraulic capacity, I would have lost interest in milling quickly.
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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2020, 07:09:57 PM »
The LT 35 Hydraulic is a very capable mill.  If I have good logs and good help, I can consistently saw 250-300 board feet an hour with mine.  I studied on the LT 40 Hydraulic and didnt see enough difference to justify the price.

The step up to the LT 40 Super Hydraulic would definitely be worth it if you can swing the price.  

But as much mill as you can afford and/or justify.  

Without sufficient hydraulic capacity, I would have lost interest in milling quickly.
what would you say your average log diameter and length is to get to 250 to 300 board per hour?  I assume they are larger logs?

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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2020, 08:31:05 PM »
Usually logs in the 16-22 SED 12 long. One to two per hour and the average will be right around the 250-300 mark.  
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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2020, 07:08:03 AM »
I tossed around the idea of the LT40 super just because of the rebate on it make it very closely priced to a straight LT40 but we're talking close to a 10K difference between an LT35 and going to a 40 or 40 super.  I figured thats a lot of support equipment or accessories and just money in my pocket for something I'll only be doing on weekends and off days if there is such a thing.

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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 10:49:23 AM »
Does anyone in the southern Vermont area have a Norwood HD36 with hydraulics that I might be able to come take a look at?  I'd just like to see a few machines before I make a decision thanks

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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #13 on: Today at 12:07:27 AM »
Just wondering does anyone run a diesel on an LT35 i see its an option but is it worth the extra coin for the longevity of the mill?

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Re: New to milling trying to make a decision
« Reply #14 on: Today at 05:57:08 AM »
General007
Docgp just got his new lt 35 with a Diesel engine.
Over two years ago I was going to order the lt35 but my wife said I should get the lt40 wide with a Diesel engine .I did not think I would use it enough on our farm projects so I went with the gas 38hp.Well it works very good but it is thirsty using over a gallon an hour .You are welcome to come and try out our lt40 but our farms are in southern Rensselaer county New York .
Best to you in deciding what flavor of band mill to get .
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