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Started by TimW, November 23, 2020, 10:06:38 PM

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TimW

30 foot wide.  My best friend, Mahindra, will help.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

Y'all got me to thinking and I had an  epiphany.  Since I will be building the trusses on plywood, I can clear out the barn a little and build them there, with a roof, fan, and lights.  I wasn't gonna do it there, as it is just 30 feet deep with a ramp built into a foot of it at the door.  So I can set the plywood up and at tapered shims at the door.  That way, it won't get wet until finished and outside!!!!
Thanks Y'all, for getting my thinker, thinking!!! :thumbsup:
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WV Sawmiller

Tim,

    You keep using a word I am unfamiliar with. It is called "Plywood". 

   I thought you had a sawmill. Why not saw out a bunch of wide boards for your siding? I know I have seen some large pine logs you have sawed. I am sure some of them would have been happy to become 1X12s or 1X10s or such.
Howard Green
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doc henderson

I saw bunks of tongue and groove ply at Lowes, and it looked awful.  defects in the stack 3 inches of compression just from the strapping and mostly broke up tongues.
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TimW

Quote from: WV Sawmiller on Yesterday at 08:02:22 AMTim,

    You keep using a word I am unfamiliar with. It is called "Plywood".

  I thought you had a sawmill. Why not saw out a bunch of wide boards for your siding? I know I have seen some large pine logs you have sawed. I am sure some of them would have been happy to become 1X12s or 1X10s or suc
Howard,
  Thanks for chiming in.  Since trusses use plywood for gussets, I do have to buy that.  I did cut 1x6s for the center lower cord splice as these splices are in tension only.  I need to plane them down ASAP.

As the diagram shows tension and compression, the tension gussets get pulled in two directions.  SYP can be pulled apart perpendicular to the grain.  I think I said that right.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

While mowing the grass, I was thinking.  Since I am using rough lumber, why would I want to plane the 1x6 center bottom cord splices?  I am thinking the glue will like rough over planed for better adhesion.
Thoughts?  
I was thinking planed, because the plywood is smooth.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

Magicman

Yes, you will have a much stronger glue joint with smooth lumber.
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TimW

Okay, so I will plane the 1x6 splices.  But the boards are already cut to 1.5".  Can't plane those.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

Old Greenhorn

True, but you could sand the gusset areas to get the frass off it get the glue on better.
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Magicman

You are saying "glue" but I assume that glue is construction adhesive which should fill the voids and maybe be more forgiving regarding roughness.  
98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

barbender

Tim, there are actual engineered plans for glued/nailed plywood gusset trusses available from Iowa State University iirc. You can purchase and download the book of truss plans.
Too many irons in the fire

beenthere

TimW
Did you start this pole shed project with Brandi shown here with Doc Henderson ?

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TimW

Quote from: Magicman on Yesterday at 08:14:18 PMYou are saying "glue" but I assume that glue is construction adhesive which should fill the voids and maybe be more forgiving regarding roughness. 
I said adhesive earlier, so I gather you are talking to Old Greenhorn.  I think this is the stuff I will use.  Already checked and know where in the store.  The big tubes.
Liquid Nails 10 oz. Heavy Duty Construction Adhesive LN-901 - The Home Depot
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

Quote from: beenthere on Yesterday at 09:23:29 PMTimW
Did you start this pole shed project with Brandi shown here with Doc Henderson ?


I did.  We're kin!
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

Quote from: barbender on Yesterday at 08:29:48 PMTim, there are actual engineered plans for glued/nailed plywood gusset trusses available from Iowa State University iirc. You can purchase and download the book of truss plans.
The 3 quotes I got for trusses have all the plans and notes attached.  I just have to size the gussets accordingly. 
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

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