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Best chain saw file?
« on: February 09, 2021, 10:23:02 PM »
Ok guys - letís weigh in - what in your opinion is the best chainsaw file - and why:
Durability
Price
Availability 
Ease of cleaning
Etc.

Oh yeah - please specify type - round flat, square cut ...

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Re: Best chain saw file?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2021, 10:57:04 PM »
Nicholson is pretty much the leader of the file business on the machinist side.  I get stihl files at the co-op because thats what is there and i have no complaints.  Any new file is better than a dull old rusty one no matter what brand.  They all wear out.. Just how it is. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2021, 11:11:26 PM »
For a 7/32 round file.... Save Edge... makes an Oregon file seem dull out of the box. 

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2021, 11:24:33 PM »
For all the hubbub about the Save-edge files, I got a box and didn't notice any difference vs the Oregon I'd always used. Not that they're bad, I was just expecting more🤷🏽‍♂️
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Re: Best chain saw file?
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2021, 08:05:32 AM »
Round files are about $1.50 at my local hardware store. Not sure of the brand. I get a new one when I put on a new chain. But I should probably get a new one more often. Every time I start using a new one, I ask myself "why didn't you do that sooner?"
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2021, 10:16:55 AM »
The last time that I bought some was at a local Stihl dealer. He had an unopened box of 12 that he sold me and they worked out to be out the door price of 24ish. The # (for those interested) is 7010 871 6405 and thatís for 7/32 for 3/8 chain. I recorded the # since itís not in the catalog so Iíd have for future reference. The box had 4 of the 3pack in it.


BTW, shouldnít this be in the chainsaw section?
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2021, 02:27:32 PM »
CBN wheel on a grinder is the best file IMHO ;) ;D :) :)  Ya Ya Ya ground chains aren't as sharp as hand filed ::) ::)  Whatever :D :)  I haven't hand filed a saw chain since January of 2006  ;D 8) ;D 8) :)
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2021, 04:02:30 PM »
Bar none  PFERD
Nothing is even close
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2021, 04:36:30 PM »
I am partial to Stihl and my dealer has good pricing if you buy the files by box rather than singles or 3 pack.

Everybody is too proud of the raker files.

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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2021, 04:47:57 PM »
I'm pretty sure the Stihl files are Made by PFERD 
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2021, 05:13:26 PM »
have used Pferd files for years, have not found anything better.

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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2021, 07:19:30 PM »
CBN wheel on a grinder is the best file IMHO ;) ;D :) :)  Ya Ya Ya ground chains aren't as sharp as hand filed ::) ::)  Whatever :D :)  I haven't hand filed a saw chain since January of 2006  ;D 8) ;D 8) :)
The eye cannot beat a machine or jig but is is so easy to carry a file in your file pocket.

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2021, 07:23:48 PM »
Me to. Pferd is my favorite but remember , like chainsaw bars, they can make bad batches.

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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2021, 07:39:24 PM »
For a 7/32 round file.... Save Edge... makes an Oregon file seem dull out of the box.
Iíve used a lot of files. Iím kind of a experiment try kind of guy. Save edge beats them all. 

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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2021, 09:42:07 PM »
I think the Oregon files I buy are Pferd made too? I can't remember for sure.
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2021, 09:56:04 PM »
I run Sthil chains on both my Huskys and file with a Oregon file. I buy them by the box. I have a big saw and a small saw, need two different size files. Just like chains and bars, bars, I keep one on hand all the time, and chains, I buy 5 at a time.
I suppose I should not say that my Makita 4 inch grinder keeps the rakers down.
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2021, 10:25:04 PM »
I canít remember the last time I used or bought a file a grinder is the way to go especially when running square chains. 

 

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2021, 05:24:49 PM »
You carry chains in the woods? 

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2021, 06:21:13 PM »
I always had extras in the forwarder or  with the gas and oil.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2021, 07:25:41 PM »
I know guys that swap chains but only fiewood cutters. Falling and bucking log trees it would drive me crazy. Sharpen a saw 6+ times a day is faster than swapping chains. I would like to buy a sharpener for when I hit junk though. 

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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2021, 07:34:30 PM »
You carry chains in the woods?
You carry chains in the woods? 
Yes I do an old crown royal bag or something like that works well. If Iím cutting all the time Iíll swap a chain after a few hours or around noon to finish the day out. Remember my chains start at 105 drivers so sharpening them is time consuming vs swapping a chain out in less then a few minutes on either Stihl or Husky saws. Most days Iím packing 6 chains but normally use 2 maybe 3 if I hit something well bucking.

This is a cutter straight off the grinder I like a predictable chain every time I start.

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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2021, 08:52:32 PM »
I recently ended up with a 7/32 oregon. It seemed to have a lot more bite and lasted longer than the stihl files I normally use. Might have been a fluke. Bought 3 stihl 7/32 files today $5.60.  A little extra filing today I nicked  a scaffold cutting a window opening in a log wall. 

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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2021, 10:51:56 PM »
I'd rather swap out a chain than file one in the woods.  That's my preference :) :)
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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2021, 12:46:12 AM »
I'm happy to sit on a stump and touch up a chain with a file if it's gets a bit dull. 

But if I seriously rock one, then I have a spare sharp chain handy as it's going to take some serious file work to get that one cutting again.  Much quicker to swap it out and deal with the mess later. 

So I can see the logic of carrying spare chains, especially for the folks that prefer to machine grind their chains. They get to sharpen them later in comfort back in the workshop. If you are working in the snow with limited daylight, that seems very sensible?
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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2021, 06:09:37 AM »
Yeah i run 84 drives. I could see some advantages but for the most part Iíll carry a file. No way Iíd get a couple hours on a sharpen. Maybe one hour to hour and a half. I basically touch it up quick every tank of gas. Then it only takes a swipe or two. Also Iíve heard after grinding itís to hard to hand file? Is that pretty true?

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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2021, 06:39:42 AM »
I use an Oregon chain grinder. 
It takes me about 10 minutes to do one. 
I usually have t do at least one each night when my dads been running the harvester. Unless he bumps something with it, (not common). The chains can last a whole day easy and only need a slight rub to get back into perfection while cutting just spruce stud and logs.

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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2021, 07:47:48 AM »
You carry chains in the woods?
You carry chains in the woods?
Yes I do an old crown royal bag or something like that works well. If Iím cutting all the time Iíll swap a chain after a few hours or around noon to finish the day out. Remember my chains start at 105 drivers so sharpening them is time consuming vs swapping a chain out in less then a few minutes on either Stihl or Husky saws. Most days Iím packing 6 chains but normally use 2 maybe 3 if I hit something well bucking.
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This is a cutter straight off the grinder I like a predictable chain every time I start.
That's what I've always heard re square, the one guy here that uses square (he learned that on fire crews in CA) grinds and carries 3 with him and keeps a semi chisel if he has a need to cut dirty wood.  Swapping a chain is pretty easy and he just grinds on really nasty days, I think he'll have 20 loops made and just saves dull chain for a rainy day.  
Do you make your own chains ?  What brand chain do you like?  
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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2021, 08:44:43 AM »
I generally have 2 extra loops with me but I also carry my trusty Timberline sharpener. https://www.timberlinesharpener.com/shop/

Gives you a better than new edge and it is a prefect sharpen every time. Once you got the hang of it, its a 10 to 15 minute job on a 20" bar. Real hard to beat.
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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2021, 08:52:53 AM »
Yeah i run 84 drives. I could see some advantages but for the most part Iíll carry a file. No way Iíd get a couple hours on a sharpen. Maybe one hour to hour and a half. I basically touch it up quick every tank of gas. Then it only takes a swipe or two. Also Iíve heard after grinding itís to hard to hand file? Is that pretty true?
If you burn a cutter yes and well youíre learning to grind you will burn some cutters. Well Iím grinding Iím also doing all my saw/harvester chain maintenance checking the tie straps/presets cleaning bar rails and blowing the saw out including air filters. With doing all of that I have less time in sitting down grind then you do filing Iím also only allowed to fall 6 hours a day so I need to watch how much time I screw around out in the brush.

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« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2021, 08:57:22 AM »
You carry chains in the woods?
You carry chains in the woods?
Yes I do an old crown royal bag or something like that works well. If Iím cutting all the time Iíll swap a chain after a few hours or around noon to finish the day out. Remember my chains start at 105 drivers so sharpening them is time consuming vs swapping a chain out in less then a few minutes on either Stihl or Husky saws. Most days Iím packing 6 chains but normally use 2 maybe 3 if I hit something well bucking.
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This is a cutter straight off the grinder I like a predictable chain every time I start.
That's what I've always heard re square, the one guy here that uses square (he learned that on fire crews in CA) grinds and carries 3 with him and keeps a semi chisel if he has a need to cut dirty wood.  Swapping a chain is pretty easy and he just grinds on really nasty days, I think he'll have 20 loops made and just saves dull chain for a rainy day.  
Do you make your own chains ?  What brand chain do you like?  
I do make my own chains you loose too much buying by the loop I can get a roll out here cheaper. Almost all my chains are Oregon Iím not a fan of Stihl it works but I donít like the angles on a factory cutter I have angles I like to run well cutting. Even a brand new chain gets tossed on the grinder for the teeth sharpened and then the rakers are ground.

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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2021, 10:48:54 AM »
I buy loops. A case of loops .20 more per loop. Free shipping. And I use Oregon and it husqvarna but I prefer and generally buy Oregon. All to there own I guess. Iím cutting cold frozen big hard maple right now. Sharpen about every tree🙄

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« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2021, 10:49:13 AM »
I buy loops. A case of loops .20 more per loop. Free shipping. And I use Oregon and it husqvarna but I prefer and generally buy Oregon. All to there own I guess. Iím cutting cold frozen big hard maple right now. Sharpen about every tree🙄

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« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2021, 12:10:06 PM »
I screwed up. I donít have the chain assembly tools so Iíd save $2 per loop after I paid for the tools. 

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« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2021, 02:25:38 PM »
I screwed up. I donít have the chain assembly tools so Iíd save $2 per loop after I paid for the tools.


But the chain would be less expensive after the tool is paid for. :-\

After I examined your reply closer, I noticed that my response was in error, oops 😬 
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« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2021, 03:03:36 PM »
Round filing is actually pretty quick in the woods. Before you start to file but after youíve cut a log, use your stump or bits of another scrap of wood that is pretty well immobile and make a poor man stump vise. Just cut about 1.5Ē in to hold the chain and bar. Learn to file carefully from 1 side and when that side is done, pickup the saw to rotate the chain. Itís not perfect but it works fairly well, just not quite as good as a stump-vise.  BTW, I have a stump vise but itís kinda heavy and takes up some room. When you do the poor man trick, the chain needs to be fairly tight. It rocks to much if itís got to much slack.
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« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2021, 03:36:26 PM »
I screwed up. I donít have the chain assembly tools so Iíd save $2 per loop after I paid for the tools.
So youíre paying around 17 dollars per loop?

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« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2021, 05:05:01 PM »
$14.75 for husky. $15.50 Oregon. 

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« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2021, 05:44:25 PM »
Just saw this, Pferd fer shur!

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« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2021, 02:20:53 AM »
If i put a new chain on monday, cut and top with it come Thursday its done, frozen wood right now your filing every tree sometimes. I would have to carry 6-8 chains minimum and that would drive me nuts swapping chains. I cant justify building saw chain anymore for 3/8, i do for 3/4 but thats a diff beast. Friend of mine up north gets .404 by the bucket loads, brand new chain goes on the harvester, it gets dull another new chain goes on, he ran his firewood processor for yrs on once used chains. 

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« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2021, 02:49:29 AM »
He doesn't sharpen?  There must be good money in firewood!
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« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2021, 03:43:33 AM »
He doesn't sharpen?  There must be good money in firewood!
 Ponsse harvester, put a new chain on and go back to work. He had 4-5 buckets of chain sitting there they gave him. 

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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2021, 03:51:48 PM »
Also Iíve heard after grinding itís to hard to hand file? Is that pretty true?


Only if the guy operating the grinder doesn't know what the heck he's doing. If you overheat the chain, even just the very edge, it can ruin a couple of files the next time you try to hand sharpen. It doesn't take much: the alloy of most chains is such that it easily harden if overheated: between "air quenchng" and the body of the tooth suckin gthat heat out of the cutting edge very quickly, you can quench the steel very easily, resulting in an untempered martensite structure. This is really hard and brittle. You'll wear the teeth of your file trying to file it down.

If you are taking it somewhere to be sharpened, even if there is a lot to take off on each tooth (for example, if you rocked it) all you should hear is a series of short bursts on the grinder with a very light touch and a pause in between: bzt..... bzt..... bzt. If you hear Bzzzzt..Bzzzzzt..Bzzzzzt or even worse, one long BZZZZZZZZZT on each tooth, take your saw somewhere else.
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