Author Topic: The Beast (Read 1212 times)

Walnut Beast · « **on:** February 10, 2021, 07:52:41 PM »

i guess when you don’t have a trailer yet and your new machine is sitting in the dealers shop for 6 weeks they will deliver it 240 miles to get it out 😂

Walnut Beast · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2021, 08:07:11 PM »

<b. There has been discussion about tracks in snow and there not all created equal. I’ve said before in discussions with these 20” wide tracks and 15” + of ground clearance that in very deep snow you only sink so far down and float right over the top. I’ve done this with 6-8’ drifts. This snow in the picture is only 14” deep but as you can see where I walked I went deeper. Same thing in soft soils and mud

Woodschopper · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2021, 09:52:04 PM »

Wowwwwwww

Impressive piece of machinery. Have heard ASV’s struggle past 1000 hours with detracking but I have never run an ASV. Sure is a slick looking machine.

Walnut Beast · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2021, 10:22:49 PM »

Actually ASV is the only one with the no derailment guarantee. Two year warranty or 2,000 hr warranty which ever comes first. If your mulching full time with the unit then about 2,500 hrs and you might want to get in a new one. Or be spending money fixing The machine will be fine doing everything else many hours after that but mulching is full throttle. Basically in the mulching machines of any size is about 1,000 per horsepower. A friend of mine bought two new PrimeTech 175s and that’s a steel track dedicated machine. It’s pretty awesome but has a awesome price of 260,000 but around 5,000 hrs before you should have to start spending some big money repairing

Walnut Beast · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2021, 11:24:07 PM »

A nice big crystal clear backup camera that’s mounted right in front of you above your head is pretty handy even to notice things when your going forward

barbender · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2021, 11:25:50 PM »

ASV's float when others don't. They are more maintenance for sure but they flat outperform other track u/c's imo. I've spent a fair amount of seat time in both. The old models like the 4810 were known for losing tracks, but I never had an issue with the newer ones.

barbender · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2021, 11:26:43 PM »

BTW, sweet machine, Walnut Beast! I can PM you my address so you can drop it off sometime 😁

Walnut Beast · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2021, 11:39:00 PM »

Thanks barbender. Unfortunately I can’t do that because I’m still waiting for my Diamond C gooseneck to come in 😂

Mike W · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2021, 11:51:07 PM »

Sweeeet...... Nice, congratulations, looks ready to go, like the added winch on the rear.

Bruno of NH · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2021, 07:15:35 AM »

Very nice
You welcome to vist when you get your mulching head.

moodnacreek · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2021, 08:08:06 AM »

That thing is too nice to use. There are a lot of questions about track machines in snow. I remember when I got my old 310 case, if I got in wet snow mixed with chainsaw sawdust it was over.

Haleiwa · « **Reply #11 on:** February 11, 2021, 08:45:05 AM »

Quite a nice machine. The shielding looks to be an improvement over my 110F, stronger on the sides and more accessible on the back. My luck the dangling hook on the winch would catch on something and bring me to a stop. The camera is great. I still want to put one on mine. Enjoy.

Oliver05262 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 11, 2021, 08:50:43 AM »

Snow is it’s own beast to operate in with a light crawler. Long ago but not too far away I worked in a sawmill that used a nearly new 1010 Deere crawler/loader with forks as a yard machine. Load the deck with logs and move packs of lumber out to the yard. The mill was on a side hill with the log deck at ground level and the tail section up about 10’ in the air. Backing away from the mill with a pack of lumber, the back of the crawler would ride up on the snow. I’d only be able to back up maybe the length of the machine before I would have to go ahead a bit to bring it back down. Jockey around like that 3-4 times before I could get far enough away from the mill to turn and travel forward.
Tossed the slabs down into a KB-6 dump truck. Even with triple side chains on, that was a job to get over to the slab pile and back.

mike_belben · « **Reply #13 on:** February 11, 2021, 08:59:58 AM »

that each track frame has 4 groups of rubber rocker bogies like a torflex is the only thing i can find different about an ASV bottom vs a conventional fixed roller track frame. so i guess thats what it is.. the bogies are walking beams on the inside and outside. id guess it doesn't let the track droop down and loose contact with the roller flange so it has a lot less chance of being walked off sideways. a rock will push one segment of rollers up but the walking beam nature forces the other rollers down so they're gonna keep that flange in contact with the rib inside the track.

Nebraska · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2021, 09:47:50 AM »

Nice! I could find lots of projects for that.

PoginyHill · « **Reply #15 on:** February 11, 2021, 11:42:06 AM »

Quote from: mike_belben on February 11, 2021, 08:59:58 AM

that each track frame has 4 groups of rubber rocker bogies like a torflex is the only thing i can find different about an ASV bottom vs a conventional fixed roller track frame. so i guess thats what it is.. the bogies are walking beams on the inside and outside. id guess it doesn't let the track droop down and loose contact with the roller flange so it has a lot less chance of being walked off sideways. a rock will push one segment of rollers up but the walking beam nature forces the other rollers down so they're gonna keep that flange in contact with the rib inside the track.

I have no experience with either type, but reading about it, I understand the tracks are different. The floating bogies use a solid rubber track - no steel in the center. You'll notice the drive "sprocket" is not a traditional type. so the track hugs the ground better, but don't last as long nor as rugged as the steel composite ones with fixed rollers.

Walnut Beast · « **Reply #16 on:** February 11, 2021, 11:50:55 AM »

Quote from: Haleiwa on February 11, 2021, 08:45:05 AM

Quite a nice machine. The shielding looks to be an improvement over my 110F, stronger on the sides and more accessible on the back. My luck the dangling hook on the winch would catch on something and bring me to a stop. The camera is great. I still want to put one on mine. Enjoy.

Here is the company out of Washington that makes the cool top and side shielding (no ASV is not that generous 😂). Like I was telling you the fans are moved from underneath and put in the housing then you just unbolt and open on the hinged part then blow out. I haven’t opened mine yet but this picture of it open helps show you. Several guys that run say they work very slick to open and blow the condenser out. On the winch that rod in the middle is to attach the hook

Walnut Beast · « **Reply #17 on:** February 11, 2021, 12:20:53 PM »

Quote from: mike_belben on February 11, 2021, 08:59:58 AM

that each track frame has 4 groups of rubber rocker bogies like a torflex is the only thing i can find different about an ASV bottom vs a conventional fixed roller track frame. so i guess thats what it is.. the bogies are walking beams on the inside and outside. id guess it doesn't let the track droop down and loose contact with the roller flange so it has a lot less chance of being walked off sideways. a rock will push one segment of rollers up but the walking beam nature forces the other rollers down so they're gonna keep that flange in contact with the rib inside the track.

With the open design on the track debris that gets in there gets cleaned or kicked out. This track design is proven and hasn’t been changed in years. There are zero issues on these tracks coming off these machines. Just a note ASV tracks don’t use steel in their tracks. They use some special formulation of compounds in the rubber, pre stretch the rubber and some type of stretch and puncture resistant fabric in them as well

chevytaHOE5674 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2021, 03:00:37 PM »

To say "zero issues" with the tracks coming off is a tough/impossible statement to stand behind. 2 months back a mechanic buddy of mine was laying in the snow and muck putting a track back on an ASV mulcher for a ROW contractor. Machine had 150 hours of use, was on a slippery side hill when a log got wedged just right and the track walked off.

Deal with equipment long enough and you will learn there is no such thing as "impossible". Lol

nativewolf · « **Reply #19 on:** February 11, 2021, 03:05:37 PM »

Very nice! Should be a great mulching unit, what head will you put on that? Do you have any issues with rock?

I love that screen, hope the cameras are easy to replace or fix the lenses. I'd love to have something in our skidsteer

, one of my big gripes.

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