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Straight 660 Timberjack.
« on: February 22, 2021, 09:41:41 PM »
Can anyone give me anything bad to say about the 660s ? I'm going this weekend. 
 

 

 


 


 


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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2021, 09:52:43 PM »
What is the bracket for on the front blade

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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2021, 10:30:50 PM »
From the looks of it that winch has no idea what's about to happen to it.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2021, 10:44:25 PM »
What is the bracket for on the front blade
 The story I get is that machines plowed snow most of its life, had a pusher / plow on it. 

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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2021, 11:05:46 PM »
The brackets on the blade were likely used to tote fuel to a buncher or shovel. I am only recalling , 8.3 cummins , clark transmission.  Some had ZF axles and parts were expensive and scarce ,others clark/dana. Grapple and rotator parts may be hard to come by as well.  

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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2021, 02:21:44 AM »
Guys that ran one said they felt really tippy, because you sit so high in them. Just a seat of the pants thing.
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2021, 05:02:29 AM »
A big chip operation ran them your years here. Still have some carcasses laying around. I always heard they were good. The 560s I was told to stay away from. You can tell its pulled wood by the pain missing and welded the grapple tips. Looks like shes been sitting. Doors off. Id say cheap. Or nothing. 

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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2021, 07:25:10 AM »
wow was that a fast and superficial based dismissal. 
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2021, 07:33:29 AM »
We had one crew had a 660 they picked up used.  Worked good was nice moving the delimber. the 460 was the most common at that time. 

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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2021, 11:10:43 AM »
wow was that a fast and superficial based dismissal.
It's the perspective of someone who actually understands what it is to make a living with machinery.   If you are spending 250 a day to hire an operator and he and the mechanic spend the morning trying to tell if the engine is actually running hot or the sending unit is shorted out because a mouse chewed the wires, the supposed savings from buying something that sat abandoned for two years disappear in a hurry. 
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2021, 11:46:33 AM »
Send it to me for a couple months. I'll find the weak points.
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2021, 12:52:05 PM »
Tires are good . Does the winch work as it looks like it has never did much so just wondering from sitting . Barge there are some north of you in canada but I never was around them skidding  but the one guy I know has 2 of them and a 460 and 360 and they are the machines he uses.  Not sure why cause never asked him . Maybe cause of the size 

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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2021, 03:44:42 PM »
 The guy who has this one has 6 jacks, has 3 of these, works all by himself, he bought it 1yr ago to run it. She's seen wood but the story is she hasn't seen wood in a LONG time, plowed snow at a private airport. Im going to call Nortrax 🤮 after I look it over, see what is available and isnt. NOTHING is cheap anymore, another FF member and I where talking excavators last night and stuff thats clean and pre emissions is out of sight. We have a 1923 Model T 1ton show truck and 4 Cletracs and I can order any parts I want, a 23yr old skidder is completely obsolete ? I had heard there was a change over on the axles, i believe this doesn't have the odd ZF axles. That 460 ive got has been BULLETPROOF and put more wood out, kind of what im hoping with this, if its really got 8100hrs ? I figure if I pick this up and that other low hr 450G I stay out of debt for a while. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2021, 04:07:05 PM »
Go all out and buy a new Deere they have a 15k hrs. Warranty on the Axles and some pretty neat features 😂

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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2021, 04:20:31 PM »
Never ran one, but heard they were just an oversized 460, samemotor from what I hear. Good luck.
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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2021, 04:52:05 PM »
Barge do you remember years ago when deschaine was down in your country with the only 660 cable they ever made they were skiddin like 2 miles down an abandonded old town rd bunching to it with 2 460 grapples and a grapple cat dozer little frenchman runnin it for him was smaller than clem and moved just as fast looked like a calf roper un bellin chokers and roarin back into the woods had like a dozen slides on it just resurfaced a few years ago i believe walt chandler still has it
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2021, 05:15:39 PM »
I remember when Deschaine bought all that iron, that machine was actually on the job bordering where im cutting now. Guy out Rochester way has it now and puts 3kft a hitch out with it. Im getting to the point i may see if Clem wants to work 3 days a week 😆 They dont come much better than him, in person I can translate pretty good, its hard over the phone sometimes. 
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2021, 05:17:01 PM »
wow was that a fast and superficial based dismissal.
I disagree. Im looking at it from what I see from barges post. Alone most times all times of day and night. Bought another delimber and is talking about a loader. I just dont see where he has the time to deal with a machine thats been sitting  I sure didnt mean anything by it. I have old equipment. I just bought a machine that sat for years. But I work 7-4 most days. Then work on that old equipment after. 

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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2021, 05:21:56 PM »
And I hammered wood out for a big crew. Took 5 high hour skidders to get it done. Was running low boy 2-3 times a month swapping skidders.

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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2021, 05:35:33 PM »
barge im sure others can speak the fringlish language that all french canadian woodsmen seem to speak even at almost 80 years old i bet clem would out skid most men he is an animal in the woods. 

joe i hear ya about iron been there seen it all and i will say the most money i kept in my pocket was one helper cuttin big wood on steep ground pullin to the top with the dozer and then usually an hr buggy ride to the header went after the big log trees no one else did. i know where eric is coming from and what he sees there are multiple operators down this way that have multiple machines and only operate themselves or have some part time semi retired help move alot of wood
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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2021, 05:54:11 PM »
 He cut some pile of wood when he was going. My GF's uncle used to go to the show every yr and take pictures of the parade, im helping her move boxes in the back of a shed and she hands me these photo albums ? I start going thru them and here was Clem when he bought 2x new 820D's, he enjoyed those pictures when i brought them down for him, ive gotten torn up a couple times at that table 😆 yeah he will pause sometimes, go from full French to partial French, just a great man. 

 I can't see how some of these guys are making it, I work 7 days a week and have periods where I do ok, periods where you dont make anything, new irons nice but nothing ive got the banks going to coming to get if im slow. 

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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2021, 08:57:29 PM »
so what does the 660 cross over to in size a JD 848 or what, never really been around one much

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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2021, 09:03:43 PM »
Yeah it was the 848G for a while. Told the guy with that low hr G3 I was going to spend money this week now he wants to play let's make a deal, not sure what im buying.  Ed im afraid of going in over my head, if I got offered the right chiefs job with the right company I can still park this stuff tomorrow. Had a problem down here a few months ago, I would have let it go, made the guy make it right, my father didn't want to hear it and now its a hornets nest, im not working nights alot because I want to, worried about coming back in the morning to all my stuff burned to the ground, I cant get these 2 jobs done fast enough so my iron goes 1hr away, told the Pakistani to hit a certain # and I want that gas station sold, done with these people. 

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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2021, 10:02:13 PM »
Barge your not telling me something I had kind of figured out in my small weak mind , your not working 7 days a week just because you think its sexy , up here there are deals on machines but I'm just not feeling the love the way everything is going so I had a talk with the 3 of us , me , myself and I and were staying with what we got as far as machines goes , I owe nothing on these so if they have to sit thats not a problem and I'm getting very picky in my old age on what jobs I do , had another job today and said no thanks to . I have done enough of these jobs that really does nothing more than make the land owner alot of money . Things are going to get alot worse before they get better , lumber is at a all time high but we as loggers are not seeing any of that cash, yes I get good coin on stuff that goes into containers but not from my sawmills in this area . Your skidding a long ways so you need to find big skidders that you can bring huge hitches each time . Back in the mid 90's I was in the same boat as you, road cost was just way to much so it was mile to mile and a half skids . I looked at a new clark 668 and some kind of tree length grapple forwarder type machine , I knew the salemen pretty good , forwarder guy told me 364 days a year to break even so 1 day a year it made money so that was off the table pretty fast , the 668 looked good but alot of coin back then and what do you do with it if you can freeze a rd in to where skidding is alot shorter , skidder is just to big and slow . I bought new winch bands for my skidder just in case I need them and another thing happened today, I texted my skidsteer guy and asked if they has any 8 ft wide new angle plows for my machine , price came back at $3500 with everything I wanted , I left him alone and 2 hours later he called me $2350 which I said yes to . This is quite a large dealer and he is scared on whats coming , now you guys I think are in better shape than us cause of how bad we are run up here but I would not stick  my neck out to far unless you are sure you got everything covered

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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2021, 10:51:21 PM »
Ed you talk to yourself too 😆 I fire myself on a daily basis. Anymore if I cant make reasonable money cutting a job im not even getting involved, let someone else starve to death. By Friday I will have 40k ft of softwood sitting behind me, over 20ld of firewood logs and ship 7-8ld of good logs, on top of hopefully 4ld of pulpwood this week, all by myself.... the deals are around, just got to be ready to jump. I told the guy with the G3 if I buy the skidder hes going to commit to a price on his CLEAN 450J, im so sick of being cold and after buying that 750J I want a cab dozer for the woods. 

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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2021, 05:39:17 AM »
You have to pick your poison. At some point youll have to drink some. I dont care what route you take. Your basically winning and loosing big or winning and loosing small. Small gives me less of a headache and I sleep better🙂

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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2021, 06:15:53 AM »
yes we talk lots , big thing is you need to sit yourself down and really figure out did you make any more money after spending so much on equipment and the cost of running that equipment per day , yes you produce alot more but your cost is alot more to produce that stuff AND are you always going to have that timber to use that equipment 

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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2021, 09:11:10 AM »
If america glorified spending as little as possible instead of making as much as possible, we'd have a 3 day workweek instead of 7. 
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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2021, 09:52:13 AM »
If you think about it . Back when my Dad logged . A log truck took 2500 feet and the team of guys cut 2 or 3 of those a day and made alot more money per thousand than we are today.  Just because we produce more does not mean we are making more once its all said and done . 

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« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2021, 09:55:08 AM »
Now back to Barges skudder. Never been around a 848 or a 948 but I'm sure they would pull a hell of a load . Phone Tigercat and tell them you want to demo a new 6 wheel dkidder or I guess johndeere as they may one now just tell them you want to put only 2500 hours on it for a test to see if its the machine you want lol

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« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2021, 06:22:19 PM »
to the skidder makes gd sense for his operation and the 460 he has was run hard and well maintained by the origional owner and is of the same vintage as that 660 if you go back downsize you could bunch with the 440 and dozer to it for long skids

ed the crazy thing is that the 2500 ft made a living for all 3 and the trucker as well and some more at the sawmill
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« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2021, 07:21:03 PM »
 @Mountaynman  These guys dont realize how MUCH wood that little Frenchman cut 😆 

 I dont know what to do, low hr G3 or this pig 🤷‍♂️  guy put new batteries in it today, got it out. 
 

 
 That machine hasn't seem much wood, arch isn't even hammered. 

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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2021, 07:38:43 PM »
Well seeing it drive around sure helps. Is it a 5.9? 

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« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2021, 07:39:44 PM »
8.3 cummins, Clark trans, basically a big sister to my 460. 

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« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2021, 08:22:11 PM »
In my experience that 8.3 is a snorting beast.  Does your timbco have an 8.3?

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« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2021, 08:33:54 PM »
No, my Timbco was an unloved red headed step child in the UP because it was spec-ed out with a 6068T Deere engine, had only ever seen a barsaw in redpine when i got it. I bought it from Lakeshore when he was still going, no one wanted it because it didn't have the HP for a big head. 

 I cant find a good brochure on it but im being told its 230-250hp, I will have to check the tag. 

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« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2021, 09:03:39 PM »
Your 460 has a 8.3? All the 360s and 460s I ran had the 5.9. Well except the newer 460h. That was Deere. All good though. 

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« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2021, 09:22:48 PM »
My 460 has a 5.9. That 660 in the picture has an 8.3 cummins. 

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« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2021, 09:51:52 PM »
IIRC the 848G had an 8.1 jd engine. Other than that they were basically the same as the 660.

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« Reply #39 on: Yesterday at 06:35:44 PM »
Barge , the 660 looks pretty good , new tires and forsure not beat up , if the price is right I'm sure it will do the job well 

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« Reply #40 on: Yesterday at 10:55:51 PM »
Going out Sunday 🤷‍♂️ The guy is a dirty iron peddler, my type of people 😆 We sat talking biggest iron flips the other day, im an amateur. Breaking out my fanciest yalmuka and see how far I can beat him down. 

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« Reply #41 on: Today at 08:49:34 AM »
You can do it .  Just take your fat wallet . Cash is King in most of those kind of places and he has to know that size of a machine is hard to sell and most guys will buy new or newer cause then they can finance it at a bank . Any machine over 10 years old the banks will not touch here . .   So I'm thinking by Monday morning we should see pictures of this 660 with 7500 feet of logs behind it heading to the landing 


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