sharpening question

[Dan R]

I purchased a sharpener and tooth setter for my LT 15 blades. For all of you Millers with their own sharpening equipment do you sharpen or set first. I have got conflicting opinions on this. 
Thanks Dan 

[PAmizerman]

I sharpen first

[trimguy]

I'm still fairly new to this and a hobby sawyer = little experience. I set first and then sharpen. I have a little burr on the back of the blade from sharpening that would have to be knocked off to get an accurate reading on the setter.

[Bradm]

Set first, then sharpen.  Nothing should touch the tooth after it gets sharpened.

[fluidpowerpro]

I just bought a sharpener and setter so I too am a beginner.
On earlier occasions in various threads about sharpening and setting I have seen comments about de-setting first, sharpening and then resetting??
I have also seen it said that setting isnt required every time you sharpen.
I would like to hear more about this if anyone is willing to edjumAkate me.

[Percy]

I have read some very interesting debates and opinions on this subject since I joined up here in 2003. There is some really technical points made by  some, refuted by others who are just as educated as the point makers. ;D

Sharpening and setting is a necessity, but in  my opinion, you should read up and then make your own decision after trying both ways...... Some dislike sharpening but others, including myself kinda like it. 

[kelLOGg]

I set then sharpen. I frequently find that setting before each sharpening is not always be necessary but I don't want to take the chance that a tooth may be off.

[Gere Flewelling]

I run the blade through a roller first to remove set (not all of it), then I sharpen, I de-burr the tips, and then set.  Took a bunch of combinations of the above to finally decide what works best for me.  I can do all of the above with my sharpener and dual tooth setter.  Not a speedy process but is an accurate process that has produced good results for me.

[Chuck White]

I run every blade through my roller, then set, and finally sharpen!

If your final step is sharpening, the face of the tooth will be square rather than angled!

I don't get concerned with the bur on the back side of the blade, it will go away during the first few passes through a log with no ill effects!

[JoshNZ]

I set first then sharpen, don't see why vice versa wouldn't be OK too. I unfold a blade and lay on bench, measure set left and right in 3 different places, if they're all even and enough it goes straight on the sharpener. Unless it's been marked back at the mill for having a rogue tooth or poor cut/whatever and needs attention.

[ladylake]

  If your final step is sharpening, the face of the tooth will be square rather than angled!


 Thats why I set first.  Steve

[MobileSawMilSlo]

In the beginning I have first set and then sharpen the blades.
But after a while, I have concluded that for me it is the best other way around.

If you have some small damaged blades tooth and you must go for example 4 or 5 times around, then you completely lose the set you have made before.

[ladylake]

  

I only go around once on 99% of the blades, too many damaged teeth they get thrown out.  A couple of damaged teeth I don't worry about.  Steve

[Daburner87]

Any cheap setters and sharpeners out there?  Any opinions on Woodland Mills setter/sharpening system?

https://woodlandmills.com/product/bandsaw-blade-sharpener-and-setter-bundle/

[Crossroads]

 

I only go around once on 99% of the blades, too many damaged teeth they get thrown out.  A couple of damaged teeth I don't worry about.  Steve

I don't even have my grinder yet and this is the way I intend to roll. 

[Oddman]

I find there's always somewhat of a burr on one side of the teeth (even after upgrading to a CBN sharpener) so to save the trouble of de-burring, I set before sharpening.

[terrifictimbersllc]

I measured the width of the burr I was getting with my CBN grinder and came to the conclusion that it was less than .001 ", and had no bearing on anything.

If I know that a blade has lost a lot of set, then I might set it first. But normally I sharpen first, then set. I like that this leaves the blade oiled which makes it go through the setter smoothly.

[YellowHammer]

I sharpen first then overset a few thousandths and then don't set for the second sharpening.  

I set off the tooth tips so if they are not fully formed or dull, then I am setting on a rounded corner and may be off a few thousandths and not give me as smooth a finish. Sharpening gives me a perfect reference face or corner to set on.  

I used to set them sharpen for years but I could never get the consistency or accuracy of sharpen then set.  

[Gary Davis]

hudson used to make   a primitive hand setter that works  very simple and low cost

[firefighter ontheside]

I purchased a sharpener and tooth setter for my LT 15 blades. For all of you Millers with their own sharpening equipment do you sharpen or set first. I have got conflicting opinions on this.
Thanks Dan

What did you get?  Woodmizer or other equipment.  I think I'm gonna order something soon.  I was looking at Woodmizer and Woodland Mills options this morning.  I'm not sure what the timeframe is for Woodmizer, but Woodland mills says 4 weeks.

[Dan R]

I purchased the Woodland mills sharpener and setter. I was able to see one in my area. I done a few blades with it and I'm sge tying to like it. 
Dan

[Dan R]

Wow should have previewed post. 
I am starting to like it. 

[BrentWV]

I ordered a Wood-Mizer BMS 25 last April and still haven't seen it.

[frazman]

I will be purchasing the Woodland Mills sharpener & setter as well this year. It will interesting to see how it turns out for me as what to do first. There are good point either way.

[tawilson]

Reading this thread caused me to change my mind 3 times about how I am going to do my next batch. I do need to invent a desetter.