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Started by dustyhat, January 17, 2023, 12:08:53 PM

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wisconsitom

Since this ain't about mill work anymore, I'll mention I tried a red and black battery saw one of my kids has, just to see.  It was not light in weight with the battery.  I didn't care for the ergonomics of the safety switch configuration -hands got fatigued by that a bit.

Was felling small conifers and limbing same.  I found it felt and performed decent for the notch and felling cuts, and was nearly unsuitable for limbing.  Too heavy, awkward, and underpowered for that biz.

That was saw's maiden voyage and when I looked at where I'd set it on the shop floor, the next morning, there was a little puddle of oil,  leaking out of the chain adjust screw hole.  

I hear a lot too about how handy it is to just pick one of these battery saws up and go do your random few cuts.  Sounds like a recipe for more injuries, as things like chaps, eye protection, etc. get skipped....time will tell.
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beenthere

My 7' Stihl electric pole saw is a dream come true. Very handy for pruning up trees to around 12', battery lasts longer than I am interested in cutting, great for reaching in to spruce and pruning the lower branches out of the way for dropping the tree (later with the MS261 ), and it cuts great (much like in the video). Made it easy to sell my Stihl telescoping pole saw. 
Same battery as my Stihl blower. 
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Walnut Beast

Quote from: Brian_Rhoad on January 20, 2023, 08:21:02 PM
Stihl MSA 300


Stihl MSA 300
That's the one I want to check out!! But doesn't seem to be available or it's limited in the US. They say it performs better than a 261. Pretty good reviews 40% more battery capacity is a game changer. Talking about the saw. 
https://youtu.be/2keEW5Ipu7I

Walnut Beast

Quote from: barbender on January 20, 2023, 06:20:24 PM
Yeah I cut that tree with a Husky 390xp, I had the battery saw in my pickup and I couldn't resist😊 Some guys I know, that should know better, got all fired up when I put that on FB. "There's no way you can drop a 36" tree with a 12" bar!"😂😂
You might think different wit the new Stihl msa 300 electric 

 

sealark37

I use Husky battery tools including their chainsaw, which works well.  The pole saw and string trimmer are also good tools.  The hedge trimmer became inop the first season.  After some fits and starts, they finally solved the Husky battery problems. I never use my gas tools any more.




alecs

If you already have a bunch of cordless tools and the associated battery and charger infrastructure, I would seriously look in that direction and get the chainsaw offering by the same manufacturer.  I have a Makita cordless saw that uses two 18V 5.0Ah batteries.  It is great for lots of small tasks.  I originally saw it used at a timber framing class I went to, it was used to cut 8x8 and 10x12 pine to final length.  The lack of engine vibration meant it could make an accurate cut where the beam was too thick for even an oversize circular saw.  But since then, I've used the cordless saw whenever possible, including around the mill.  

There are often deals where if you buy a cordless tool, you get an extra set of batteries.  So I now have a bunch of the Makita 5.0 batteries and two chargers that each charge two batteries.  With one set of batteries on the saw and two more sets on the chargers, I can pretty much cut non stop if I want to.  


Guido Salvage

I have been a chain saw collector for many years, at one point I had 500 of them. I have a Stihl MSA140 that I keep in my sawmill truck for use at the mill. Great for bumping knots and such.

I also sell Stihl products and will be attending a training session at our distributor next month. I am hoping they have a MSA300 there to test.

TSAW

I have the Milwaukee 16" battery powered saw it does a decent job for quick cuts.  Just to see what it would do I cut a red oak log that was 18" diameter, it had no trouble getting through it just had to chase the cut from the other side.  We also have the Stihl Battery chainsaw on the Rescue Squad that I drive where I work and it does a good job also.  The only thing I will note of these battery saws if something pinches the chain the saw will stop until you fix the issue.

OlJarhead

Oh the Echo has the power to cut through that 18" log ;)  In fact, I did a 17" dry fir in one of those videos and then, on the same battery, after cutting some small stuff, ripped another chunk of firewood in half with it!

It's surprising how much power it has and it handled the rip in some ways better than the gas powered 38cc saw.  The gas saw in the end was faster but the Echo held it's own!
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21incher

I just got my Hatchet m18 saw. Was preorder and finally shipped.  Cute little saw that can hang off a strap. 


 

 
Pretty  much all I use now are the electric saws. My 16 inch m18 saw will keep up with most small gas saws. And the m18 pole saw is awesome for trimming up in the air. In a couple weeks I should be able to order the m18 top handle 14 inch saw. The only  one I am disappointed in is the 20 volt dewalt saw I bought that is gutless and vibrates bad. Now that the gas saw ban is going in effect soon in California and other states are following we all need to embrace electric saws for smaller jobs. Actually I plan on picking up a spare Echo 590 just to have incase my present one dies before  the ban takes effect in NY. A changing world we live in now.
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DARRELL1972

Dewalt's new 60v has an 18in bar. We run a Dewalt 60v with a 16in bar around the mill and farm for about 3yrs now and we like it. As someone else pointed out find 1 that works with you're battery platform. FYI dwalt 60v battery will work on your 20v tools with no issues. 
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We use a green works battery saw at the saw mill for misc trimming etc.  I believe that it is comparable to the descriptions that many of you have posted.  I am happy with it, although the batteries seem to die sooner at low temperatures below freezing, but have solved that issue by having a spare battery handy in the truck.

I do not see how my 3 and 4 foot oak trees are to be safely cut down with one of those battery saws when all states ban gas equipment.   Perhaps it is just my shortsightedness as I am confident that the politicians know more than I do.

Yes, we require those larger stems for house beams.


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OlJarhead

This is a problem with all batteries 

The lose capacity as they get colder.  Generally life cycles and AH ratings are based on a temperature of 70F.  At 32F they are down around 25% below cap.  By 0F they are at around 50%.

You won't see a loy odmf Teslas driving around way up north 😉

Meanwhile it gets worse.  LiPo batteries will not take a charge at low Temps though they seem to have improved that from the previous 50F min temp to 32F.  Fir example my new cabin batteries must be above 32F to take a charge but can discharge still at around 2F.

So it's important to keep them warm and know they will drain faster / due sooner in the cold.
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Yes, OLJarhead is correct.

Our green works uses 60 volt batteries. . .  the same ones as our leaf blower and lawn mower.


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OlJarhead

Politicians know best 👌 🤣😅😂

lol I missed that.  Good chuckle.
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21incher

Quote from: OlJarhead on February 27, 2023, 11:58:07 AM
This is a problem with all batteries

The lose capacity as they get colder.  Generally life cycles and AH ratings are based on a temperature of 70F.  At 32F they are down around 25% below cap.  By 0F they are at around 50%.

You won't see a loy odmf Teslas driving around way up north 😉

Meanwhile it gets worse.  LiPo batteries will not take a charge at low Temps though they seem to have improved that from the previous 50F min temp to 32F.  Fir example my new cabin batteries must be above 32F to take a charge but can discharge still at around 2F.

So it's important to keep them warm and know they will drain faster / due sooner in the cold.

That's the good thing about being retired. I don't work well below 32 degrees either ;). I see they are adding heaters to some LiPo battery packs that allow charging and use at temps below zero. 
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OlJarhead

Yup -- of course the heaters need energy so draw from the batteries -- it's a double edged sword :D

I just ordered (sorry it's a little off topic) 360AH of LiPo batteries for the cabin :D  I'm stoked and since I have a super insulated and heated room for the composter and these take up a LOT less space than my FLA's I'll be able to keep them warm which has been a big hang up for me other than price which has come down some.
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21incher

What I read is the small pack heaters take very little power and once at temp in a couple seconds the batteries create heat so it's just to get full output fast with out cell damage. I am looking at the 100ah 48 volt batteries (6x) from Signature Solar to set up a system to play with
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Southside

I like my M18 saw for what it does, but if such foolishness of mandating them passes here as CA and NY have done, well I will not comply.  Are the battery cops going to show up? 
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KWH

Southside, if they do you could get an old Detroit Gen pack to plug in the battery charger.

OlJarhead

That signature solar stuff might not be too bad.  I went with 3 120AH 24v batters at $1k each but 200AH of 48v is more power for less.
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Brucer

Stihl MSA 220, 16" bar. I tore my right rotator cuff last fall and couldn't pull-start anything. I needed to get my firewood in so I went electric. Falling small trees (standing dead), bucking up to 14" dry wood, and I expect it will be perfect working with the sawmill this summer. It was doing OK even when the temperature dropped below freezing.

My MSA 300-C is sitting beside me as I type. Just picked it up today. That torn rotator cuff is more than just torn -- I completely severed one of the muscles in my shoulder. So I'm now committed to going all electric.

The 300 is a bit heavy for working around the mill but the 220 is perfect. It's about equivalent to a 30 cc MS170.

I'll post about the MSA 300 in the chainsaw board after I've had a chance to use it a bit.
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Walnut Beast

Please do! I want to hear more and your thoughts for sure on the 300 👍

Broncman

I just picked up a Echo DCS 5000 . It has an 18" bar. Was very hesitant,  but man this thing flat out cuts! Cut a tree of my neighbors roof this morning from the storm, took it to my saw mill and cut up slabs into firewood size from an 80 foot poplar I milled today.  Still had plenty of battery .

I cut the butt off of an 18" Poplar and it cut as good as my Echo CS 355 T .

Can't believe how much I ended up liking a battery saw.
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OlJarhead

:)  Now you know why I like mine :D
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