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Stihl ms 400 c. 28" bar

Started by Bthomasb3, February 22, 2023, 10:25:04 AM

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King William

I just purchased a 500i with a 36 inch bar to run on my Granberg Alaskan mill and it has plenty of power to spare and usually starts on the first pull. It gives you a 30 inch width of cut once it's mounted on the mill. The Stihl setup I purchased was around $1650.00



 

Walnut Beast

Congratulations on the 500! Looks like it's getting the job done 👍

barbender

I bought this 500i hardly used, but it only had a 20" bar on it. So I had to put a "long" one on it, 24" Sugihara light. It balances nice and I think the light bar is lighter than the 20" Stihl ES bar. 

Too many irons in the fire

ehp

ya the 500i bounces out nice with a 24/25 inch bar setup 

barbender

 The guy that I bought this saw from put aftermarket dogs on it, the things are a little bit much. They eat up about 2" of bar length, and I've already speared a jug of bar oil with them🤦 I'm sure in a PNW situation with a long bar and trees with 4" thick bark they are the ticket, but they are definitely overkill here.
Too many irons in the fire

Skeans1

@barbender 
The three points are nice in the older growth style bark for sure, but one big bonus to them is they help keep the muffler cover off the bark when cutting or bucking. 

barbender

Copy that. About the only thing they will do me any favors on is the bigger pine we have. Otherwise I'm kinda feeling like Freddy Kruger at a balloon party😁
Too many irons in the fire

cuznguido

Quote from: so il logger on February 26, 2023, 01:49:05 AM
Longer bar than needed is a hindrance here, I've cut millions of ft of decent to large sized hardwood with a 20" via the slick stumping and sometimes notching in the sides to get at the heart method. 24" is what I normally run nowadays. I don't stand up and buck like that fool on YouTube. But to each his own and timber is different regionally. There has to be a reason why guys in pnw do what they do
Which fool on youtube?  Serious question.

King William

Quote from: cuznguido on March 10, 2023, 12:59:57 AM
Quote from: so il logger on February 26, 2023, 01:49:05 AM
Longer bar than needed is a hindrance here, I've cut millions of ft of decent to large sized hardwood with a 20" via the slick stumping and sometimes notching in the sides to get at the heart method. 24" is what I normally run nowadays. I don't stand up and buck like that fool on YouTube. But to each his own and timber is different regionally. There has to be a reason why guys in pnw do what they do
Which fool on youtube?  Serious question.
Could be possibly speaking of Buckin' Billy Ray from Canada?

ehp

Barbender , I learned to cut with no spikes of and kind on a saw and the whole region did it that way , All new saws came in with just the smooth bumper on them and when I tried to use a saw with spikes it did not go well to start with cause the chain forsure on a saw without spikes is far more aggressive so with spikes your jammed up alot more in the cut. And you learn to cut all your far wood with your motor being as close as it can be to the wood your cutting then rotate towards you , It sounds stupid but time a cut and see , you cut faster doing it that way than putting the spikes in the log and rotating and cutting with the far end of the bar , Its just like guys saying put a 8 pin on a 372 , yes it will pull it but it will cut slower , I have had to show lots of people that , Its got a 8 pin gear so it has to be faster   well no it does not 

barbender

Yeah I'm sure I'll find less aggressive dogs for it, or a bumper plate. These things are over the top for what I do!
Too many irons in the fire

ehp

the stock dog setup works fine for out here , I have no problems  with mine 

Woodfarmer

My 500i's wear 25" bars, I can't see the 400 being happy with a 28".

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