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firefighter ontheside

Same here.  I don't use stain unless its for a customer who really wants it.  I didn't stain the elm myself.  I have a friend who used to have a sawmill and made lots of rustic furniture in South Dakota.  He had great luck staining the american elm and it looked really good.
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barbender

 I've ran some really nice 8' elm logs through the firewood processor. It seems no one really knows what to do with it anymore, so it ends up in loads of mixed firewood logs I get. I wanted to saw them, but I knew I would saw them, sticker them, and there they would sit in the yard🤷 

 
Too many irons in the fire

SwampDonkey

I know a guy who confused some for red oak. Nope, not me. But this guy shoulda known. ::) It was my elm, so maybe he thought I didn't know what elm was, maybe that was the game. He never got any more wood from me, to saw. :D
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Stephen1

I haven't made it down to gt the logs yet as we got walloped with 20+ inches of snow and winter is here. I hope to make it down to get the logs next week. 
Life changes once the snow comes, shovel, plow, feed the fire, shovel, plow , maybe find the wood to feed the kiln , then feed the fire again, and keep doing that ...until spring. 
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barbender

I've grown to hate snow, at least how it affects all of my day to day activities. We currently have NONE and I'm loving it!
Too many irons in the fire

SwampDonkey

We only have enough snow to show a cat track. Going to be 40's tomorrow.
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

fluidpowerpro

Quote from: barbender on November 30, 2023, 12:18:47 PM
I've grown to hate snow, at least how it affects all of my day to day activities. We currently have NONE and I'm loving it!
I hear ya!
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tyofwa

Quote from: Stephen1 on November 10, 2023, 09:08:51 AM
I was just offered 2 American Elm logs. 24"x 12' from a local farmer. Grown in a tree line, but no fencing according to him. His family has lived there for 100 years.
This is in Ontario Canada.
What are they worth a bd ft? There is 300 bd ft. Doyle per log.
What would some of you pay delivered ? Picked up by yourself?

The first tree I retrieved after opening my business was a Siberian Elm planted in the late 1800s here on Whidbey Island (the one behind me in my profile pic).  It's been an amazing tree for many projects.  We recently milled the last of it.  As for price p/bf, the large slabs have been fetching ~$16/bf dried.  The smaller stuff is around $10/bf dried.  Most of the elm went into table, shelf, and mantle commissions.  In one case we made a staircase.  Most pics of that soon..

Here's a video of the recent milling.  https://www.instagram.com/p/C1AU1NvPW63/
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Kodiakmac

I have no use for elm - literally and figuratively.  :wink_2:
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SwampDonkey

Neighbour has a live American elm on the front of his lawn, probably 30" through, about 90' tall. There's another one down the road from there out in a field and another over on the next road east of here, standing tall in the middle of a field. All alive and big. About the only tree I've seen that can grow in the open and have all it's big limbs way up high. Can get a nice straight  40' log off most if you wanted to. Maples will have big limbs within 6 feet of the ground in the open.  ffcheesy
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

LeftFinger

We just cut down 40 elms on the verge between a farmyard and their access road. 15 went into their burn pile .The biggest were 18" , hard to get 9 straight feet .On the other hand Their is very little for hardwood where I live in west central Saskatchewan. We are under provincial Dutch Elm regs so .I have to get a permit to transport ,keep and sell . All loads to be tarped to transport , all to be debarked and milled bye Apr15. all bark to be burried or burned by that date . That includes the slash pile. and of course the lumber needs to be heat treated and kilned to prevent tiny chewing sounds and the spread of the disease. So We don't pay anything for elm.

LeftFinger

I will figure out how to post pics later

beenthere

Welcome to the Forestry Forum. Look forward to seeing your pics.

Photo help on the home/forum page, scroll to near the bottom. 

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elm shoe rack custom made to fit under window in closet with live edge top.



elm tommy hawk target.  lots of uses.
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Stephen1

I love that shoe shelf unit. elm is such a beautiful wood. 
Left finger that is a lot of restrictions. I never looked into that here in Ontario. All my elm is KD with a sterilization cycle included.
Quote from: LeftFinger on March 22, 2025, 10:49:39 AMWe just cut down 40 elms on the verge between a farmyard and their access road. 15 went into their burn pile .The biggest were 18" , hard to get 9 straight feet .On the other hand Their is very little for hardwood where I live in west central Saskatchewan. We are under provincial Dutch Elm regs so .I have to get a permit to transport ,keep and sell . All loads to be tarped to transport , all to be debarked and milled bye Apr15. all bark to be burried or burned by that date . That includes the slash pile. and of course the lumber needs to be heat treated and kilned to prevent tiny chewing sounds and the spread of the disease. So We don't pay anything for elm.

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SwampDonkey

I don't think we are suppose to move elm firewood outside our local area. I know there is a Federal 'Plant Protection Act' up here. Ash firewood for sure isn't suppose to be moved. Sometimes it don't make much sense if saw logs and pulp logs can be moved, sometimes 100 miles. It's always the little guys' fault.  :wacky:
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

doc henderson

here they were planted and lined every quarter mile farm driveway.  Prob. like a government subsidized plan.  after the dirt bowl they came up will kinds of stuff.  hedge rows were a result of the dust bowl and why we have so much Osage orange here in rows.  I could prob. get all the elm I could ever saw within 5 miles of my house.  They did it with Catalpa to made RR ties and planted in groves to make them tall and straight.
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SwampDonkey

"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

LeftFinger

I watched that What in the world do they want cottonwood for ? It's awful soft and weak

doc henderson

LF do you like any kind of wood? ffcheesy ffcheesy

Ok cottonwood is the state tree of Kansas.  It is a softer hardwood.  It burns at 18 million BTUs per cord compared to oak at 25 and hedge at 32 million. It is used for pallets, and coffins (light weight and can be painted pretty) and for trailer decking (the fibers crush and re-expand) without breaking and cracking.  It does well "laser" engraving.  be sure and do the air quotes at home folks.
Timber king 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor powered by a 12 volt tarp motor

doc henderson

Timber king 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor powered by a 12 volt tarp motor

SwampDonkey

Amish are sawing pallet wood out of it, apparently. I suppose any wood will work for those. I've got some pallets made from spruce or fir that I pile firewood on. They lay on top of drainage stone so they are not in mud and they stay relatively dry under the porch.
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

KEC

In the 1970s when I worked as a log truck driver, the mill I worked for did not want Cottonwood. There was, however a market for big, long, straight Cottonwood logs that would be sawn for the side rails on wooden ladders. I sometimes hauled lumber and they once had me take a load of elm lumber to the sea container terminal in Montreal, Quebec. They put on the paperwork that you show at the border that it was "brown ash." I hope the statute of limitations has passed.

SwampDonkey

That 'Plant Protection Act' wasn't in affect back then. Not until 1990. Too much mis-labelled ash.  ffcheesy
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

LeftFinger

I used some Elm for Urns The first one his wife said he wanted a Viking funeral so I made them this one. The shields are his family




It's about 18 in long

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