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Started by 240b, August 08, 2024, 07:04:05 AM

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240b

i need to build a few skids
does anyone have pics or ideas?
my search came up with 45 pages🤦🏼
I knew Jim had plans but cant find them
or remember Jims last name.

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240b

that may help my search thanks
ironically i believe he only is 40 minutes 
from me     

Old Greenhorn

The search tool takes some time to get good with. I am still working on it. If you search for  pallets and check the box to just search the subject line, you will get a pretty good list. Here is ONE LINK.
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OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

thecfarm

Jim_Rogers

Jim was a little harder to find because of the underscore.
He is almost at the bottom of the link above.

But at the top of this page, there is a Home,Forum,Gallery line.
Click onto Members and that will take you to members of the FF forum. 
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caveman

Some Youtuber guy did a really thorough video on lumber pallets recently.  You may find it on the Hobby Hardwood channel.  There are several other useful ones there too. 

When we build our lumber pallets, we screw or nail the first layer of stickers to the top of the pallet.  We also build one on top of another which enables efficient assembly.  We also paint the center stringer, especially on the 16' pallets.  It makes aligning them to stack on top of each other easier for me.

Sometimes our drying stacks get pretty high.
Caveman

barbender

 I watched that goofball YouTuber video you referenced. He's homely and talks kinda slow, but he had good info on pallets/skids.
Too many irons in the fire

Andries

Hey now, you're talkin' about my twin brother there! 
🤷�♂️
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YellowHammer

I watched that YouTuber too.  WOW!  He is great looking, smart, intelligent, and every thing that he says is pure gold.  Did I say he was good looking?  Yep. He's the guy!  As a matter of fact, I heard he's so popular that Spandex Inc. has developed a whole new clothing line for him!

 
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Old Greenhorn

Well, if that pans out then I guess I am done watching his videos. ffcheesy
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 350, 450, 562, & 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) Retired and trying to make a living to stay that way.  NYLT Certified.
OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

Andries

Ok now, we've all dreaded this development, but we can all see where this is going . . .

Burt (BB) is now going to approach LuluLemon and get his own line of spandex going.
The Robert (YH) is going to retaliate with a line of chainsaw-proof shiny clothing with Spandex Inc.
We hear on the FForum will witness the spectacle of two, Über competitive sawyers, both well over two meters tall (that's for Ramon) competing for viewers on Utube.

All for the sake of open bottom pallets!
Let's hope the Spandex is button-up and not open bottom.  🙄🤦�♂️🙄
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Old Greenhorn

Well this has been brewing for a long time. However I truly pray from the bottom of my soul that it turns out to be a threat and not a promise of things to come.
 Should it come to reality I fear the world will shift on it's axis. :huh?
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 350, 450, 562, & 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) Retired and trying to make a living to stay that way.  NYLT Certified.
OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

caveman

I came in for lunch and let a thunderstorm pass over when I read about the spandex sawyer.  I wrote a response, but it went into the abyss. 

Get the man a cape and he'll probably get a spot on Saturday morning T.V.  Saws faster than a speeding bullet, his dog Astro, umh, Chip, leaps tall slab piles in a single bound.  Anyway, you get the gist of where this is heading. 

The advice that Robert gives in person and in his videos is incredibly valuable to aspiring sawyers. 

I quartersawed a few live oak logs today and put them on a pine pallet.  Thankfully JMoore came over after he got off work to help me stack them or I'd probably still be out there stacking and feeding mosquitoes.  I also sawed a few heart pine logs today that will be used for flooring.  I need to start the fans on that stack tomorrow.  It was in the high 90's here today with 100% humidity- perfect conditions to get moldy wood.

Pallets:




Caveman

YellowHammer

caveman, that looks great.

You'uns can stop worrying...I got the first shipment of skin tight spandex chainsaw chaps in the mail and tried them on, but then Chip started throwing up and ran into the backyard, the cats started gagging, and then Martha informed me that I should probably wear at least something under the chaps....oh, well, how was I supposed to know?  I did notice it was a little breezy.

Anyway, I guess I'll skip the whole Spandex thing, just get back to my southern slow talking, "Old Man and the Saw" storyline.  
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

barbender

 Well, I have found if I play that Youtuber's videos at 1.5x speed he sounds almost like he's from Minnesota. It doesn't do anything for his looks though.

 You guys that keep framing this spandex thing as a challenge are playing with fire, I'm tellin' ya'!😂
Too many irons in the fire

Brad_bb

Apparently that youtuber is too bashful to post his own video link, but boy can he destroy garbage cans!
Yellowhammer's pallet video part 2

Don't forget to also watch part 1.
Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

thecfarm

I can't think of his name, but I like his dog Chip.  ffcheesy
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240b

ended up building one 4x12
used 4x6 blocks and 2x8s for runners screwed together with grk screws 
not trying to dry lumber on them just move material away from edger 
i cut alot of 6x9x6' for granite industry 
and they are a pita to move these will help alot 
   only need a dozen more 🤦🏼�♂️

jpassardi

Alright...I'm with Chip: I got a visual I can't shake of a redneck in a pair of black chaps  :uhoh:
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caveman

A quick question for @YellowHammer, on the pallet video that I watched last week, you mentioned not to stack lumber more than 24-25 layers high on the same pallet to avoid stack bow.  Would this number of layers change with the thickness of the boards?  I don't really want to be stacking over 24 layers high, even with 1" material.  Including the pallet, sticker and board thicknesses, that would put the stack at about 4.5' high.

We have had to pull a few layers off of the stacks on wood coming out of the kiln and going into the hot box for sterilization due to limited clearance.  This is usually when JMoore starts quoting YH to me.

   

Caveman

barbender

 Ah man, when your partner starts quoting YH like Bible verses at you, that has to hurt!  "Do you remember in II Yellowhammer, where a stack of lumber over 24 high will surely come to ruin"?😁

 I was playing around with the playback speed on Robert's videos. At 1.5X, he had a mid-Iowa sound.  At 1.75X, he starts to sound like he's from Minnesota. At 2X, he takes on more of da UP accent😂

 2X is the max playback speed on YouTube, so my fun ended there😁
Too many irons in the fire

caveman

Caveman

YellowHammer

Barbender, if you play me back at 2X speed, and it raises my voice pitch, does it make me look younger?  That would be cool!  The veritable fountain of youth. 

Caveman, for 4/4 it is a real limit for me, and if there is an option, even further reduce the row heights.  I used to do 20 and that wood was flat!  Then when I got stronger lifting equipment, I started stacking to the moon and one day, it culminated with me putting a long level on all my packs and wondering why, when they were stacked on flat concrete, every single stickered rack arched up in the middle.  So I started experimenting and kind of settled to 24 or less layers.  Then I started looking at other people's packs and started noticing the same thing.  It wasn't until I was at a big mill who had forklifts that could lift the world, and kilns about as high, and was talking to the owner while looking at his lumber stacks arched up in the middle despite being stickered by an auto stacker machine, and I asked him what was going on.  He said matter of factly, "It's stack bow, we stack high so we have it."  It was a eureka moment. 

For 8/4, I still see it, but it's not nearly as pronounced.  So thicker can be stacked higher but I still don't go much above it, because the stacks get so strong, my packs of weights I put on top don't seem to be as effective.  Basically, the wood pack is becoming stronger than the weight pack.  I could add heavier weights, but I don't want to.  Cool thing is, with 4/4, the boards are weak enough to settle flat when other packs are put on top.  When over 24 or so, the boards become strong enough to resist the weights of other packs to settle them flat.
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

doc henderson

You have a good system.  have you thought of trying extra weight in the middle to offset stack bow?  kind of like a weight "caul".
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doc henderson

at 3x he starts to sound like he is from Kansas.  and that is why the 3X is not available.   :thumbsup: :sunny: :wink_2: :wacky: ffsmiley ffcheesy :snowball: rayrock
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