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miserywhipped

Hello all, I was wondering if anybody on here was a seasoned crosscut expert. I picked up a couple of perforated lance tooth crosscuts and I've recently started restoring them to use for backcountry forestry work with the US Forest service. I was able to uncover a maker's mark on my double buck and it's a Simonds No. 541, pacific coast pattern felling saw. I know it was made between 1923 and 1938, but I was wondering if anybody could help me narrow it down. The mark is pretty faded, looking like previous sawyers let it get waaaaaaay to dry when running it through some Montana pines so any help would be greatly appreciated.

I can't figure out how to upload a photo, I'm new here. So any info would be appreciated and I'll see if I can't get a picture up on this *DanG thing.
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beenthere

Welcome to the Forestry Forum. 
Photo posting primer is in the "Home" page if you scroll to near the bottom of the listing. Have your photo in .jpg format and then set up (name) your own gallery to put your photo's in, then you link to those photo's in your post. 
Shout out if it doesn't work and you will get plenty of willing help. 

Didn't understand your comment "waaaaaay to dry". Maybe way too dry? Not sure what that means to you either. 

Here is a video that may help you.
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Most Interesting, I have a bunch of them. Even an Ice saw.
I'll see if I can get some pic.
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Old Greenhorn

Well, I see you already posted this on another forum, but I'm not sure you will find an answer. First, how do you know the manufacturing date range yo gave? Is there something on, or something about this saw? That was a standard design for a long time Here is a LINK to the Simmonds 1953 catalog.
 Good luck in your search.
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rusticretreater

https://sawdatabase.com/LarryHarris/Simonds%201953.pdf

This doc describes the saw as a double crescent grind, (curved grind on both sides of the point).  They also show a file available at the time, but only from the side.

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miserywhipped

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miserywhipped

Quote from: Old Greenhorn on Yesterday at 08:48:55 AMWell, I see you already posted this on another forum, but I'm not sure you will find an answer. First, how do you know the manufacturing date range yo gave? Is there something on, or something about this saw? That was a standard design for a long time Here is a LINK to the Simmonds 1953 catalog.
 Good luck in your search.

I know it was after 1922 since the name changed from Simonds Manufacturing Co. to Simonds Saw and Steel. I know it was before 1938 as the makers marks are different with the placement of steel mill and manufacturing plant order within the logo and the Simonds banner at the top of the mark is filled in in a 1938 catalog. The banner had changed at some point in time, since a 1923 catalog I found had a banner that wasn't filled in- so I was able to narrow it to between 1923 & 1938.
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miserywhipped

Quote from: beenthere on Yesterday at 01:33:45 AMWelcome to the Forestry Forum.
Photo posting primer is in the "Home" page if you scroll to near the bottom of the listing. Have your photo in .jpg format and then set up (name) your own gallery to put your photo's in, then you link to those photo's in your post.
Shout out if it doesn't work and you will get plenty of willing help.

Didn't understand your comment "waaaaaay to dry". Maybe way too dry? Not sure what that means to you either.

Here is a video that may help you.


I meant the saw was not properly lubricated when it was used to saw trees, so the makers marks will be more worn down. Plus with the amount of rust and pitting on this thing when I got it, its safe to say it was not properly stored or maintained for a while leading to more damage of defining etchings.
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rusticretreater

Edit your post and use the second URL (BBCODE normal, bulletin board code, normal size) from the gallery listing.  Then your pic should load in the post automajically.
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Quote from: rusticretreater on Yesterday at 12:45:34 PMThen your pic should load in the post automajically. 
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Show a pic of the teeth profile. please
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rusticretreater

Quote from: Jeff on Yesterday at 01:36:05 PM
Quote from: rusticretreater on Yesterday at 12:45:34 PMThen your pic should load in the post automajically.
If that was a typo, it was a dang good one ffcheesy
That's a computer techie term we used at work for a process that did something difficult with a spectacularly good outcome.  "How on earth do you do that?", "We have a process that does it automajically."
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miserywhipped

It still won't let me upload a photo. I can add the photos to the gallery as a .jpg and then when I try to upload the BBCode (normal) link to either the image or link upload it just does this:

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miserywhipped

If you tell me you haven't had a wreck you're either lying or you ain't been packing long enough

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