But and the Good and Bad

[Andries]

Shocker, and very glad to hear that you were able to scramble out of harms way.
👍👍
"Yep, that'll happen on some of these big jobs."
Your years of experience made you expect the unexpected. 
However, I'm surprised that the airbags didn't deploy.

[WV Sawmiller]

   I bet the next time MM saws an 8,000+ log he handles it differently.

[Old Greenhorn]

.......
However, I'm surprised that the airbags didn't deploy.

Airbags? AIRBAGS!? He don't need no stinkin' airbags!

[scsmith42]

Lynn - I'm glad that you're ok.  That could have been really bad...

[Nebraska]

Yes that's the first thing I thought of was,  oh Good Lord that could have ended badly. 
Glad the damages were minor and everyone is ok. 

[Magicman]

I bet the next time MM saws an 8,000+ log he handles it differently.

Yes, something like using a "rollback preventer" like Peter suggested above.

[moosehunter]

I would have been afraid of the mill slamming back down when you rolled the log off. 
Glad you didn't have more damage.
mh

[GAB]

Dang!
The only time I had logs heavy enough to do that on the mill, I was loading them off a log deck. I never got to test the mill's tipping capacity .

It is my opinion that running that test is an abuse of machinery.
It can be very stressful on the human owner.
GAB

[jb616]

DanG @Magicman, that's crazy. When I was restoring my mill, I was replacing the guide bearings on the saw head and it came off the track and tumbled over. Luckily I was not in the fall zone and it happened in my garage. My son helped me use a cherry picker to lift it and get it back on the track. The reason that it happened is that I had removed 2 bearings without replacing them yet. If I ever change them again, I will replace 1 at a time. 

[WV Sawmiller]

@jb616 ,

   You only have to remove one cam follower bearing on an LT35 to drop the head off. Or that's what I've been told - of course I can't speak from personal experience or anything you understand.

[Sixacresand]

Lynn, Like a true professional, you just take everything in stride and do what you got to do to get back to milling.  

[Magicman]

The welding shop called this evening and the sawmill is ready.  I'll get it in the morning.

[Magicman]

I would have been afraid of the mill slamming back down when you rolled the log off. 

We were very deliberate with every move.  The log was not holding the sawmill over on it's side so we used a chain and Magic Hook to roll it away from the sawmill.

Next I attached a chain to the safety travel chain and as he backed the backhoe up, I gradually lowered the engine on the mast to keep it from being top heavy.  It was actually amazing how gently it settled back on it's wheels and outriggers.  I was very pleased to see that the only sawmill damage was to that forward loader foot.

My customer is a retired professional welder so some field straightening was in order.  With no press, the rosebud straightening that we did left a bend in the foot which caused that loader arm to be about 3'' high.  It was good enough to load one log but not good enough for continued use.

I am glad that the customer had that old backhoe for help with loading that log (twice), righting the sawmill, and also for handling those long & heavy boards.

[KWood255]

Quite the encounter MagicMan. Unreal, with plenty of ingredients for this to be much worse. Glad to hear you and your mill are still running strong. How long was that log? Safe to say there isn't a 16' log in this part of the world to get anywhere near 5000lbs let alone 8000lbs!

[Magicman]

How long was that log?

LINK to Sawing Log

[hardtailjohn]

Glad to see you're ok, my friend!!  That's quite a spill!!!!
JH

[YellowHammer]

I probably would have used a jack to get the tires up in the air to change them, but your way seems much faster.  Glad you are alright. 

     

[TimW]

DanG.........Lynn.  That is stressful.  I have done that maneuver before, but not that big or long.  I get antsy when moving the clamp under the log to help rotate the log.  I have always thought about just what happened to you.

[TreefarmerNN]

I'm glad you are ok and the damage to the mill wasn't worse.  Do you think the actual weight of the log flipped the mill or was it a combo of weight and momentum as it rolled?  I was thinking if the hydraulics could lift the log to put it on the mill, they should have been able to hold it on the mill but I guess there's some geometry involved with less force at the top of the lift cycle.

In any case, I'm glad you are ok.

[Magicman]

It was the heavy rolling momentum.  Also the engine was at the top of the mast which sorta added to the top heaviness and added weight to the momentum.

The loader alone could and did not lift the log up to the sawmill bed.  The backhoe FEL could not lift it either.  It took a combination of the loader arms, a chain & Magic Hook attached to the log clamp, plus the backhoe FEL all working together.  We would raise it a bit and then readjust the  Magic Hook and the FEL before raising it another six inches or so.  It took several readjustments to get it from the ground to the sawmill bed. 

And then after I patched the loader foot & hydraulic cylinder back together, we had to load that monster again. 

[aigheadish]

I was wondering if it was a monster backhoe, I know mine can lift pretty heavy stuff, but probably not that log. I max out around 2 tons with the loader side.

[Magicman]

He had previously told me that he could not pick that log up with his backhoe. 

[Magicman]

This probably should go in the Dumb topic, but it is actually a continuation of this topic.

I got the sawmill from the welding shop this morning after the loader foot was straightened yesterday.  No way was I gonna leave the fresh welds unpainted so.....enter a can of Allis Chalmer's Orange paint.  That is what TSC had instead of Kubota Orange so....

Rattle cans need rattling so.....


It slipped out of my hand and hit a rock on the ground which punched that hole in the can....


And immediately gave me a Good or Bad Orange Spraying.


Pants, shoes, shirt, suspenders, & arms.  Going along with the theme of this topic; It was Good that the Bad was not any Worse. 

[moosehunter]

Some days would be better spent with a book and a cold drink in a lounge chair!!! 
mh

[Magicman]

It's funny but you can see the non-painted spots on the ground where my feet were.  Look just inside of where my feet are when we went back and took the pictures.