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Started by logman 219, May 09, 2025, 05:57:04 PM

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logman 219

how do you control head shake when sawing ??what is the cause of it???

SawyerTed

Can you give a little more info?   What mill?  Timing in the sawing when the shake happens?  Is the shake new?  
Woodmizer LT50, WM BMS 250, WM BMT 250, Kubota MX5100, IH McCormick Farmall 140, Husqvarna 372XP, Husqvarna 455 Rancher

Magicman

This is a good reason to add your sawmill and even your location to your profile so that questions can be answered.  ffsmiley
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Old Greenhorn

Yeah, you need to give us a lot more details if you want some good answers otherwise we will be guessing util the cows come home. What wood, what mill, and what blade? Those would be the startup questions.
 Just or fun, I'll take a guess and say you are using a 4 post manual mill, with 10° blades and the wood is maple. How close did I get?
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
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OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
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Magicman

I went through 46 replies and found where logman 219 has a BMST50 sharpener/setter, so I am thinking a bit larger than an entry level sawmill. 

Still need to know before answering.  ffsmiley
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Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

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To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

Cedarman


the time it was worst for me was resawing Brazilian King Wood with a blade that had too much set and too much tooth angle.  Man did it shake when going down the cant.
I am in the pink when sawing cedar.

SawyerTed

If the head on my Woodmizer LT 50 is shaking other than initial engagement of the blade, something isn't right.  It's time to shutdown and figure it out.  The shake form engaging the blade is momentary and settles before the blade enters the cut.  
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logman 219

norwood 2000 mill , riper 37 blades , 10* hard wood  logs 16" to 28" dia !!! shake only i in short spots!

Old Greenhorn

So my guesses were pretty close. Assuming you have no alignment issues and all else is to spec, then I would switch to 4° blades and I bet your issue disappears.
Best of luck, let us know how it goes.
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 350, 450, 562, & 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) Retired and trying to make a living to stay that way.  NYLT Certified.
OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

logman 219

what does 4* blades have to do with it??? my cbn wheel is 10* , don't really want to buy  another wheel!!

Old Greenhorn

It has a LOT to do with it, along with the HP of your mill and the rigidity of the construction. A 10° blade is fairly aggressive in grabbing a good chip, this puts the load back through the head and translates into shake as the blade grips and releases. With a 4° blade you reduce this 'grab' for a big chip and there is less load going back into the system.
 I had the 'shake issue' really bad on my mill, trying everything to fix it, but since switching to 4° blades it is completely gone in all types of wood. You may have another cause and effect, but all I know is what worked for me.
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 350, 450, 562, & 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) Retired and trying to make a living to stay that way.  NYLT Certified.
OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

Magicman

I have never even seen a Norwood 2000, so I can not address any possible sawmill issues, but common questions are; Possible belt slipping under load?  Do you have blade guide rollers or pads? 

Your shaking question still lacks any supporting information that could lead to any diagnosis, i.e.:  Has the sawmill sawed without shaking or is this something new?  Does it shake with any/all log species?  Does it shake with a new blade vs resharps?  It there any sawdust buildup on the blade, drive belt, or under any belts?
98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

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