Future Log Trailer - New WHOPPER Log PICS

Buzz-sawyer · October 17, 2005, 01:36:57 PM

i would just drill through the wood and light gauge steel cross members, and put common carriage bolts through.youll be replacing them in 5 years or so anyway....(If it lives outside)................
if ya keep it in a shed i would say use your cotton wood..strong as hickory and light as white pine........just keep it dry

:D

Paul_H · October 17, 2005, 02:15:22 PM

Quote from: Fla._Deadheader on October 17, 2005, 01:24:08 PM

Cross strips of flatbar. Bolt right through everything. Both ends and maybe twice in the middle.

That's what I did too Harold and I think it will be quicker when the time comes to change the decking(2x6x18' D-Fir)
5 cross straps with 5 carriage bolts in each strap.

Kirk_Allen · October 17, 2005, 08:13:51 PM

Well just a couple more brackets to weld and then I am ready to work on the side rails and tie down pieces.

I am ordering my axles, springs, and wheels in the morning and should have them in a week.

Buzz has some early shots of the inprogress work but this is what it looks like today.

tnlogger · October 17, 2005, 08:34:15 PM

wal one thing it sure wont bend :D you and buzz did a real fine job there.
like Harold said dont worry bout a deck go get them big oak and stick um on there then deck it 8)

Minnesota_boy · October 17, 2005, 10:03:53 PM

I noticed today that a mobile home frame at the local dealer's had 8 axels under it. Want me to go relieve it of a couple and send them your way? I doubt that the dealer would notice them missing.

:D :D :D

Kirk_Allen · October 17, 2005, 10:12:02 PM

I have to wait about a week for the axles (2- 7K axles with breaks) so while I wait I will fire up the mill and get the decking cut.

Spent a good part of the day cutting telephone poles for some treated posts to fix the header in the barn. I have to replace about 18 feet of header and truss. Going to use the treated T-poles for the main support posts, 5x5, and 2x10 cotton wood lumber to span the 18 feet.

Its amazing how creative you have to be when you work by yourself. Took a while to figure out the best way to support the roof and the loft but once I got if shored up it looks like its going to be a simple fix.

When I get fried from welding I just step over to the barn ;D

wiam · October 17, 2005, 10:24:55 PM

When I was in high school my dad bought a GMC 3500 cab and chasis. The first load on it was white ash logs we took to the mill. We just put 4x4's across the frame and loaded. The second load was sawed lumber on the same 4x4's. Then I built a body in the school shop.

Will

Furby · October 17, 2005, 10:31:09 PM

Quote from: Kirk Allen on October 17, 2005, 10:12:02 PM
When I get fried from welding I just step over to the barn ;D

I know what ya mean! :D :D :D :D

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Kirk_Allen · October 18, 2005, 09:46:52 AM

Had it not been for the crash ccourse Buzz gave me on welding this project would not have been very far along. Dont know about the rest of you but I have a welder and all the equipment to weld and can even make a pretty good looking beed. My problem comes from lack of faith in the weld. I did not know what to look for to ensure I had a good weld.

I like Buzz's method the best of all! BIG HAMMER! After beating the daylights out of a few welds I realized that if they dont come apart with 10 blows from a 10lb maul then they are going to hold :D

After all this welding I have to say I have FAR more confidence in my welding ability. Now I am not as stand offish on building more stuff ;D Lots of metal left over and just debating on what that next project will be.

Fla._Deadheader · October 18, 2005, 09:51:16 AM

Loading Boom on the front of that trailer ??? ???

Kirk_Allen · October 18, 2005, 10:04:45 AM

Thats a great idea. Got any plans? Could put one on each end of this beat and just pick them up from the ends and not have to mess with all that rolling up the sides.

Murf · October 18, 2005, 10:17:54 AM

Just make tall steel stakes that drop into pockets on the sides. Then put a pulley on top, and a winch on the side.

To load you just put the winch pole on the side opposite the log, run the cable over the pulley, across the trailer, down under the log and back up to a stake pocket on that side. As you pull on the winch the log will act like it's own snatch block, rolling it up onto the trailer. If there are logs already on the trailer the cable going over them will lift the new log on top of the previous ones.

This way you can load from either side.

Fla._Deadheader · October 18, 2005, 01:06:18 PM

Shoot Kirk, with your ability along with Buzz, I was hoping for a design from Y'all. :

;D ;D

I would put a Prentice type boom on there, with a winch attached. Lift one end of a BIG log, and drag it up on the trailer, then scootch the rest up. ;)

A.D. Fields built one. Wonder where HE is, anyway. Hey Andy ??? ???

Kirk_Allen · October 19, 2005, 07:44:17 PM

I got one 20' section of stake pockets done yesterday. What an experience that was

When I laid it down it looked like a Banana. It bowed pretty good from the heat.

This morning it had staightened somewhat but still was about 4" out from end to end. I strapped it in place and once its tight it looks great. I hope to weld it in place tomarrow.

Now for the GREAT news! The old axles and remnents of metal from the back of the trailer that I did not use............................SOLD! $300.00 8) 8) 8) 8) Not bad considering I paid $400.00 and now have a 30' Tank Hauler!

Furby · October 19, 2005, 07:50:04 PM

:D :D :D :D :D
Hey ya Kirk, I could use ya up here at the auctions tomorrow.
Could use a deal or two. :

Kirk_Allen · October 19, 2005, 11:53:17 PM

Wish I could be there Furby but WAY TO MANY things need fixen around here.

Today was Header Replacement day. Dad came over and we tackled replacing a 15' header in the big barn. We used Milled Cottonwood and made a triple 2x10 header with two 2x6's as the top plate. We were able to eliminate one support post by doing this and freeing up LOTS of room in the barn. Now that the header is replaced I have to replace eight 2x10 floor rafters that rotted from moisture. Once those are replaced I will deck that part of the loft and then work on replacing the main roof truss's in sections and get the roof properly supported.

After today I would like to say.................ITS WAY COOL TO HAVE A MILL AND CUT YOUR OWN WOOD! I dont think I will ever get tired of it! 8) 8)

Buzz-sawyer · October 20, 2005, 06:40:48 PM

House trailer befor modification

After a few cuts....

Kirk making pocket cuts to place one of the heavy I beams in.

Here Kirk is placing one of the heavy c channel cross supports.

A weld.....

The logs that inspired this project

This shows the two heavy beams installed with some cross bracing

ksu_chainsaw · October 20, 2005, 07:07:31 PM

Looks good!!!!

The only thing that I would do to that would be to replace the ball hitch off of the old trailer house- they arent that long lasting.

A good "hammerblow" ball hitch will last forever, or even better, get a pintle ring on there to make the trailer easier to move with a tractor.

just my 2 cents

Charles

Furby · October 20, 2005, 09:09:50 PM

Well Kirk, your new shop "building" sold for $155k plus 10%.......... they got a DEAL!
So you still planning to deck the trailer first?
I'd use it the way it is, after the axels get on that is. :

Frank_Pender · October 20, 2005, 10:50:01 PM

Excellent idea on the pintle hitch, ksu. I would do one better, make sure the pintel will swivel as it follows the truck doing the pulling. With the length and weight that is going to be hauled, sure would try and go that direction.

Ironwood · October 20, 2005, 11:13:17 PM

Kirk,

No fair with all that new steel it is no longer a mobile home trailer but actually an new trailer with remnants of an old frame mingled in. Looks good. I like the "multi position channel" style connectors that allow you to switch between pintle/ 2-5/16"/ or 2" ball couplers. Northern sells them, get the five position mininium. I beleive I have a 7 or 9 position that is way heavily built, probably from .............I forget the name now, but they are a huge supplier the trailer industry. It is sooooo much better than the Northern version. Buyers, that's it and they have several subdivisions. You may need to special order it. This allows you to change hitch height at the trailer tongue depending on the vehical you are using. Watch the pintle though, I have heard that in some states it changes how they scale you, as in they then count the trailer weight cumulatively toward the tow vehicals allowable GVW. Keep on a welding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOOKS GOOD.

Kirk_Allen · October 21, 2005, 12:49:10 AM

Reid,
Searched for what you talking about and came up empty. Got any numbers on where to get one?

Thanks

Rockn H · October 21, 2005, 11:02:54 AM

I'm not sure about Buyer's , but here's the site for northern toolhttps://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=position"> Note:Please read the Forestry Forum's postion on this company.

northern tool Note:Please read the Forestry Forum's postion on this company

Frank_Pender · October 21, 2005, 12:12:15 PM

Hey ya Kirk, I have three or four of those I stole from Alice. Give me your address and perhaps I can find a way to get UPS to deliver it to you by Christmas. :'(