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Stihl 044 bar size
« on: March 09, 2006, 07:43:29 PM »
  What bar size do you guys run on your 044 size saws , I have a 36 inch bar and it seems to handle it well.

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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2006, 08:25:44 PM »
I guess this is where perception comes into play. I would never bar up an 044 with more than a 28" bar........that is with full-skip chain also.
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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2006, 08:35:47 PM »
I guess the only real reason I use them is because my Dad had a bunch of 36 inch bars and chains , My 044 did not come with a bar I dont know why I bought it from a dealer, it was damaged from the factory the oil fill protector was broke off so they took of a $150.00. They said it would be a PITA to replace the case.

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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2006, 09:53:51 PM »
The 044 works well with a 24"-28" bar. The $150 discount isn't all that great if you consider that my local Stihl dealer gets $65 for a Stihl 24" bar and another $30 for a chain. Sounds like a $55 discount, sorry.  :-\

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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2006, 09:57:43 PM »
I have a 25" bar seems to run well - big enough for my trees. Same price as Rocky_J - they tried selling me an Oregon bar, but the 044 cuts better with the Stihl bar - or at least looks better :D

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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2006, 11:25:59 PM »
When I got the saw I never did get a bar and chain , I just used my dads old bars , It would have been nice to get a stock bar for it though. I just bought my first bar the other day it was a 36 inch for $63.00.   finnaly ran out of good bars .

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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2006, 03:02:48 AM »
I gotta be honest hilux, I'd call a 36" a bit on the long side for an 044/440, even in soft wood.  I run a 28" on my 440, and a 24" on my 044.  I don't put on a 36" until I pull out my 660.  Run what you like, but I think you're short-changing yourself with that set-up.

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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2006, 08:07:04 AM »
I run only a 16 inch bar on my MS440...

That saw sort of scares me compared to my Husky 357XP and Jonsered 2159..

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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2006, 08:41:26 AM »
What are you cutting with a 16" on the 440. Sorta like going after squirrels with a 12 ga. ;D ;D
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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2006, 10:26:07 AM »
Yep, kinda reminds me of hitting a tack with a sledge hammer.  But don't mean to poke fun. You gets what you likes. :)

I run a 20" on MS361 and like the balance. Any longer and it would be 'bar' heavy and seems would not sit without tipping onto the bar.
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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2006, 11:06:29 AM »
I think I will go ahead and get a smaller bar 24 inch.

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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2006, 12:18:10 PM »
I am cutting spruce logs, largest about 28 inches on the butt .. the Ms440 usually is just sitting on the tractor  watching the 357XP work...

I use it once in a while to fall the larger trees and to limb the larger ones with those big
knobs, however it makes my wrist sore after a while...

It is also good for lowering high stumps on the extraction trails, the poor Husky 357xp almost catches on fire, while the MS440 justs chugs away on that stuff...

The saw was a dealer demo and we bogged down in the dealing over a new longer bar so it still has the 16, I wanted an 18 but he wouldnt throw one in the deal...

It makes the Husky 357xp look quite sick..

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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2006, 01:06:28 PM »
I run a 28" on mine and found that is all it SHOULD handle.  I think any more would drag down too much.  My dealer recommended no more than 28-glad I listened.

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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2006, 08:56:34 PM »
What are you cutting with a 16" on the 440. Sorta like going after squirrels with a 12 ga. ;D ;D

Yeah but the speed and power is bad to the bone!!!
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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2006, 11:57:39 PM »
I run a 20" bar on my 440 and 460 and they are both monsters!  I couldn't have said it better, rahtreelimbs! :D :) ;D 8)
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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2006, 01:12:48 AM »
At my real job, we use a 28 inch bar with skip chain on the 440, its just right. On the subject of 16 inch on the 440, we use a 16 inch bar on the 66 and a 20 inch bar on the 88 ;D
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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2006, 12:55:29 PM »
Stihl indicates that a 36 is ok for an 044 but its the limit. In the published specs i think it says 32 is the max. The thing to think about when you put a 16 or 20 on one of these says is that it allows you to exceed the max RPM (around 12,500) and unless you have a tachometer, you are just guessing wheyn you re-tune. Ideally you would set the no load max to 12,500 but in my experience most people dont do it that way.

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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2006, 03:21:10 PM »
Years ago, a mill I did work for was using 090's with 24" bars on the barker. I had to cut the mechanical governors back to keep the operators from over revving and blowing up the saws. I don't see any need for a short bar on a large saw unless you are milling or slabbing.
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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2006, 05:41:01 PM »
I'm using 20" bars on 044's and 046's. Any longer and I lose too much horsepower, and am better off using a 660/066. A 20" bar will cut over 99% of the local timber. Last week I cut a red oak that measured 48" across the stump with a 20" bar on a 460. If you live out in the northwest, or take down alot of large, urban timber a bigger bar on a saw will probably be needed more than by a logger like me.
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Re: Stihl 044 bar size
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2006, 09:41:43 PM »
We use such short bars only in winter when we get calls from clients that had trees come down in storms and they just want it taken care of fast. They like seeing the big saws getting the work done and it is a little faster. You just have to pay attention to not damage the saw.
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