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Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« on: March 30, 2006, 12:03:04 PM »
I keep watching D&L's website for information about the swingblade.  Has anybody called them to get information on it yet?  I would just pick up the phone and ask them myself, but calls from Tokyo are a bit costly.

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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2006, 01:44:48 PM »
Call collect ;D  I don't know, but I've hand a hankering to see these for a while and still no pics.  I guess they're real busy.

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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2006, 03:29:24 PM »
I just got off of the phone with the folks at D&L.  The new 180deg swingblade is available to buy but they don't have a video of it yet.  They said about a two week to build.  I'd sure like to see one operate.  The cost is about $15,000 Canadian.  They are going to call me back with a more firm price and shipping costs.   This machine must be quite similar to the Eco Saw...but I don't know anything about them either.

If I'm going to buy a new saw, I'd sure like to check out a 180deg. swinger...especially if it is comparable in price and quality to the 90deg. machines.  The shipping cost that they gave me seemed way high.  Is there a lot of duty on machines coming into the US from Canada?
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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2006, 04:37:13 PM »
Should'nt be with the NAFTA....

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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2006, 08:35:14 PM »
Here are 2 pictures D&L sent me.
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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2006, 09:19:10 PM »
The machine is pretty nice.  Lindsey who builds them and owns the company was up at the Oregon Logging Conference.  He is a very nice guy with a lot of good ideas. 

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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2006, 10:31:47 PM »
Ok I'll be the one to make a fool of himself.

I don't get the 180 swingblade thing. I understand the 90 degree rotation. You cut vertical then one inch or whatever horizontal to cut the board from the log. 180 degrees?? :P

I know I'm not the only one wondering about this.
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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2006, 10:36:19 PM »
The only hting I can guess is that it will cut from the left side of the log or the right side of the log. I dont know about Lucas, but the Peterson is set up to mill from the left side of the log.
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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2006, 11:17:28 PM »
Another swinger in the making I see...a blue one.

Lost Pines, whats the specs on the machine?
Log diameter, raise and fall, sideways shift, portabillity method etc. etc. Looks like it's got the 35 Briggs.

Doesn't look as though its set up to be pivoted and pushed from the opposite side of the bed though.
I'm sure Lindsey will jump on here any second.

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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2006, 07:56:31 AM »
Here is more info:

Mill : D&L Swing Blade 8x16 20 h.p kohler Electric start

Standard Options : 

- Diamond Sharpener

- 3 4 tooth carbide saws

- Cuts a 36 to 48 dia 20 6 long log cut (30 track total & cross members)( extra track sections available in 20ft lengths ) and four cross   members

- 4x6 aluminum Extrusion  20ft track section

- 180 degree swing

- Blades sharpen on the mill

- Mild steel frame on the carriage

- Comes standard with three 4 tooth carbide saws


Options :

- Extra track 20ft                   
- Dogging system                  (per set of 3 (mild steel)

- Stainless Steel                    (per three)

- Extra saws                          Per saw 

- 27 h.p kohler                     
- stainless steel  option       
Freight is fob Lac La Hache B.C

Freight Quote upon request


Also, comes with electric rise and fall for vertical sizing as std. Mild steel version is standard with a stainless option. Prices around $14,000 with a set of 3 log dogs ( that actually work) and the 27 kohler, About 16000 bucks for the same in stainless. That is very competitive pricing, and lead times are supposed to be very short, around 2 weeks.
 

 
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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2006, 08:48:53 AM »
I was thinking the same thing Oaskie, but I'm guessing it will allow you to saw a bigger log.  if you put a log inside the rails that touches both of them then you could saw to the very outside edge of the log by flipping the saw to that side.  if it only saws to one side then you will always be left with a wide/thick board from that one side, which will inherently have unusual stress because of the position of the log it was cut from. 

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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2006, 03:25:16 PM »
twoodward15, the way I see it is which ever side you may start on  you will always sacrifice the width of the opposite side of the blade and arbor (used for the operator walk space), the horizontal blade must still make a pass first off on either side of the log. So I don't it see it sawing a larger log.

You'ld gain some flexabillity by cutting from both sides of a smaller log, but would have to calculate the width of the centre board if you were to do this.

Interesting stuff, HORSLOGGER, cheers.



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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2006, 03:40:01 PM »
I was thinkin' dat a 180 swing would mean ya could cut down, flip, move over an cut back up, instead of pushing it back but not cutting, dat would make you more efficient.  ::)

But then, the extra time to reposition would prolly eat up as much time as just moving the carriage.  ::)

In my case, Murphy's Law would prolly mean it would take even more time.  :D
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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2006, 06:06:32 PM »
Jake is right ... it doesnt make the mill able to cut wider logs than the comparably sized competitors...and just for clarification, it swings 180 degree horizontaly, not verticaly :D ::) :)
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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2006, 09:56:46 PM »
Speaking on behalf of Lindsay

He is away at a Trade Show and will reply upon his return April 4, 2006

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Info on the D&L Swinger
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2006, 10:36:45 AM »
I'm waiting with "bated breath" for info on the new D&L Swinger.   I called and was told that it was ready to be sold.  Waiting, waiting, waiting.  :D :D 8)  Has anyone on the FF seen it operate yet?
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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2006, 11:38:56 AM »
Hey. Back in town for a couple of weeks now.
Well the 180 deg swing allows the operator to saw the log from either side with out our having to remove any guards or flip the head around on the mill.  It doesn't make it so you can cut a larger log but cut from either side of the log for wider boards. We will have updated pics for the forum soon. We are really busy right now so sorry for not getting back with a response right away.
Will be in touch soon
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Re: Info on the D&L Swinger
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2006, 11:54:41 AM »
I'm waiting with "bated breath" for info on the new D&L Swinger.   I called and was told that it was ready to be sold.  Waiting, waiting, waiting.  :D :D 8)  Has anyone on the FF seen it operate yet?

Hi "Qweaver"
We will be putting our video together over the next couple of weeks. We will sending out a brochure and spec sheet shortly.
We are in full production now and taking orders.  We are working on the video , but this all takes time.
So please be patient with us and we will do our best to get the information processed ASAP.
thanks for your patience
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Re: Info on the D&L Swinger
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2006, 12:29:27 PM »
Lindsey,

Is your new saw going to be in Richmond Va.?





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Re: Anybody know about D&L Double Cut Swingblade?
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2006, 01:37:14 PM »
We are looking at that show but right now it is very close to our forest expo here In Prince George B.C .The Forst expo is our largest show in canada and we are already commited to that show. BUt we are trying to see if we can work something out for the show. We will keep you informed.
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