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Re: Sawing Cottonwood
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2020, 09:29:18 AM »
Thanks Doc

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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2020, 10:30:15 AM »
makes good trailer decking, as it crushes and does not split unter metal dozer track.  does not decay as much if it is clean and out of the dirt.  even if left in the sun and rain.  cotton wood here can be 7 foot diameter, so what do you mean when you say big?


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Well one of my Cottonwoods on the creek is 240Ē circumference 😂. The one on my drive is not quite that big. Probably around 40-45 Diameter A storm with some super strong winds broke the top out. So itís going to go on the list to mill 

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2020, 11:45:37 AM »
I like it. It's about all I can find around here that's suitable for framing lumber. Saws easy.

I have had some mixed results. Some edge grown trees with stress really dried crooked and much was wasted straight lining them afterwards. Some were throwaway with too much twist. Others have sawn and dried very straight. In the future I think I'll be more picky about the ones I take. I'd likely pass on the log Doc showed for trailer decking if I was planning to saw framing lumber or posts based on my limited experience

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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2020, 11:57:21 AM »
I think one point is that wood that is often overlooked or thought of as junk, can be useful.  the wood is soft so tends to break in storms, but resilient to a point.  cannot buy elm or cottonwood at Lowes.  many of the over 100 y/o Ks homes and many barns were built with cottonwood framing.  it grows fast as do many in the family, and usually dies at about 100 years old.  only about 18 million BTUs per cord for heat.  better than some of the soft wood species burned in Alaska for heat.  and better than nothing if you are freezing.
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2020, 12:04:28 PM »
left over slab of CW 2 x 24 x 18 left outside.

 


 


 

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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2020, 12:07:08 PM »
I dug out a double trunked cottonwood root ball.  it had to ride up on the rails of my dump truck.  too big to fit in the 5 yard bed.  weight at the dump, 12 k.

using the tool that log was well over 3k pounds
edit:  closer to 5 k.
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2020, 12:09:14 PM »
I saw a lot of cottonwood. Perhaps our Alaskan cottonwood is a little different but I don't have an issue with warping or twisting. It seems to stay pretty flat through the drying process.

I have cut it for paneling, cabinets, structural lumber, sheathing, rig mats and beams. I even floored my wood shed with it. We don't have a lot of options in south central Alaska for timber. Spruce, birch and cottonwood. Right now with the massive beetlekill spruce problem, it's sometimes difficult to get spruce that will make 2x material that isn't severely cracked or showing some dry rot.

I put a pretty big cottonwood log on the LT15 yesterday. I'm prepping to pour a slab for the sawmill shed and needed some form boards and a long screed board. I need some 24' 2x6s for trusses later so cut mostly that from the log. I ended up with 16 24' 2x6s, 2 20' 2x10s and 2 16' 2x6s from the log. 18" on the small end and 22" on the big end. It was everything my 37 horse Branson wanted to pick up. I have a 1500 pound three point hitch counter weight and needed every ounce of it. I'll cut the rest of the form boards this week.

I retired Friday and am looking forward to making a lot more sawdust and enjoying the autumn years with Etta. Here's a few pics.

This log really put a strain on the Armstrong log turner.





Some of the 24' 2x6s





The flooring and siding of the woodshed are cottonwood.





Some cottonwood rig mats I keep around to rent out during the spring.



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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2020, 07:23:27 PM »
Looks like you have a pretty nice setup. Thanks for the pictures and input 👍

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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2020, 07:30:48 PM »
left over slab of CW 2 x 24 x 18 left outside.
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Thanks Doc. It still looks good. What are your plans with it. Or is it going to sit there for a few more years 😂

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« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2020, 07:31:38 PM »
Thanks. Itís getting there. Hoping to get a 20x40 pad poured behind where the mill sits before cold weather sets in. My buddy is coming over Friday and weíll get it all prepped for the pour. After the slab is poured and the mill moved to the pad Iíll start milling 6x6s for the posts and building trusses from the long 2x6s. Got a few more to mill yet. 

But tomorrow is moose hunting time. And I have a caribou tag to fill yet. 
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« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2020, 07:36:33 PM »
Im jealous 😂. Hunting of many big game species in your backyard. Good luck 👍 

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« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2020, 08:36:14 PM »
A neighbor has a couple sheds built entirely of cottonwood, and about 100 years old.  But the shingles are not cottonwood.  Just framing, siding, and flooring. If you use it for trailer decking, should you oil the wood before installing?
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« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2020, 09:23:23 PM »
Im jealous 😂. Hunting of many big game species in your backyard. Good luck 👍
Thanks. Not quite in my back yard though. If a legal moose set foot in my yard I'd be all over it. They seem to stay out of my yard until the season is over or the brussel sprouts are ready. I'll drive about 40 miles tomorrow morning to my favorite moose spot. The caribou are about 3 hours away.
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« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2020, 09:34:43 PM »
that might be best.  they just sprayed it onto the top I think.  I did not help install it, but I ask about it from time to time.  i would think it would be good to repeat occ.  especially if it got mud from tracks all over it and it was pressure washed off.
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« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2020, 10:31:50 PM »
It makes great blocking. I do some occasional building moving and straightening. Cottonwood blocks weight like pine, but are strong like oak.

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« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2020, 12:06:53 AM »
THis is planed airdried cottonwood.....when it was green, it was just that, kinda green looking...dried out after a couple years in the forgotten shed...surprisingly nice grain..

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« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2020, 01:38:11 AM »
I saw a lot of cottonwood. Perhaps our Alaskan cottonwood is a little different but I don't have an issue with warping or twisting. It seems to stay pretty flat through the drying process.

I have cut it for paneling, cabinets, structural lumber, sheathing, rig mats and beams. I even floored my wood shed with it. We don't have a lot of options in south central Alaska for timber. Spruce, birch and cottonwood. Right now with the massive beetlekill spruce problem, it's sometimes difficult to get spruce that will make 2x material that isn't severely cracked or showing some dry rot.

I put a pretty big cottonwood log on the LT15 yesterday. I'm prepping to pour a slab for the sawmill shed and needed some form boards and a long screed board. I need some 24' 2x6s for trusses later so cut mostly that from the log. I ended up with 16 24' 2x6s, 2 20' 2x10s and 2 16' 2x6s from the log. 18" on the small end and 22" on the big end. It was everything my 37 horse Branson wanted to pick up. I have a 1500 pound three point hitch counter weight and needed every ounce of it. I'll cut the rest of the form boards this week.

I retired Friday and am looking forward to making a lot more sawdust and enjoying the autumn years with Etta. Here's a few pics.

This log really put a strain on the Armstrong log turner.


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Some of the 24' 2x6s


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The flooring and siding of the woodshed are cottonwood.


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Some cottonwood rig mats I keep around to rent out during the spring.


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« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2020, 01:58:04 AM »
Thank you sir
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« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2020, 01:04:26 PM »
I saw a lot of cottonwood. Perhaps our Alaskan cottonwood is a little different
Most likely.  It gets confusing because there are multiple species referred to simply as "Cottonwood". Most of us are referring to Eastern Cottonwood (Populus deltoides).
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« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2020, 08:05:17 AM »
Amish around here saw a lot of cottonwood for pallet lumber.  I've sawed some for framing lumber and used it to build the walls on my solar kiln.  Most of what I sawed warped beyond useable and went on the burn pile.
I did quarter saw some and used it for decking on pallet racking.  Worked well with no cupping.


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