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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2006, 09:17:58 PM »
I installed a brand new debarker package.  What I have of the old one is just the debarker housing and blade and it has a drive shaft with a pulley. All these debarkers are 12v electric.  You can make this work.
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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2006, 03:01:07 PM »
Pat:   yes please ........ hang on to the debarker housing.... I would love to give it a try.  Sounds like I will just need a 12v motor that my Honda twin can energize (might need a bigger battery).  (thanks)

Woodhick:  Thanks for the offer for the wizard.  If I had the dollars on hand I would take it.  I will email you when I get the green stuff.

Limbrat:  your sliding hammer debarker sounds really good.  I will be going through the under bench junk pile to see what is there.


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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2007, 08:49:28 AM »
Morning, people- been "lurking" and learning for months now; great forum!

Also been learning how to cut up trees over the last year or so since Katrina gave me a huge supply of logs to practice on.  One thing I tried early on (right after the farm was littered with downed pine trees) was to get the bark off as fast as possible and stack the logs in my pole barn.  Tried axes, draw knives plus a real peeling spud and then on a whim of frustration, started hacking at a trunk with my kaiser blade (swing blade some call it...) and wow it worked pretty well.  Put a good edge on it and started learning how to push it down the trunk in long swings.  Takes some practice but now I can peel a 20 foot log 20 in in diameter in about 15-20 min (sweating like the proverbial pig).  Don't know if others have tried it or not but it works for me- good luck.

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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2007, 11:04:10 AM »
Welcome to the Forestry Forum ljmathias. ;D
      Never seen a kaiser blade....any pics of that critter. :)
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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2007, 11:12:08 AM »
Could that be a machete?  ???

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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2007, 12:42:06 PM »


Ditchbank blade
Kaiser blade
brush axe
sling blade
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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2007, 09:37:35 PM »
Yeah, that's it- thanks for posting the picture.

I use two different sizes, one smaller one for working on getting bark off boards being cut on the mill (small stuff, wane and such) and a larger one (more leverage) for working on trees on the ground or on treated 4X4
s.  Only problem with these is you get a great workout but your back complains some... worth it though to get through the debarking process fast.  Several comments made on time of year best to peel a tree and spring/summer is by far the easiest (and the messiest- sap everywhere, even dripping from the pearly white pine wood freshly exposed).  Given the leverage and the "push" power you can get behind one of these, you can even take bark off red oak although that's a fight you'll take to bed with you... :D
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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2007, 10:20:36 PM »
lj..... the Kaiser blade looks like a good possibility.  Assume your bark was somewhat loose?

Where did you buy your Kaiser blades from?

And Tom:   What insecticide did you use to seperate the bark (protect from insects)?
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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2007, 11:42:29 PM »
AHhhh so......machete on a stick. 8)
               Thanks Tom. ;D
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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2007, 01:45:26 AM »
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Ditchbank blade
Kaiser blade
brush axe
sling blade

I've got one of those and I didn't even know what it was...  :D
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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2007, 07:36:28 AM »
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Ditchbank blade
Kaiser blade
brush axe
sling blade

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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2007, 11:32:48 AM »
I've got an idea that I haven't tried yet.  I have several old 4" jointer blades.  I'm thinkin' of welding one to a chisel that fits my air chisel.  'Course ya gotta have air available, but that's what they make long hoses for.
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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2007, 11:49:55 AM »
Careful Dang, you may soon be a world-famous wood carver  ;D  ;D

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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2007, 08:33:24 PM »
If the  bark is loose, debarking is so easy with a kaiser blade that I can finish a log in 5-10 min working either both sides same time, then roll and repeat, or doing one quarter down, switch hands, and one quarter back up, roll and repeat.  They sell these all over (Lowes and lots of online places) but most are the size that is too big to handle easily.  I bought two different sizes online from a company in Jackson, MS- I can get the name and email for you if you're interested.  Thing to remember with learning to use this tool for debarking is that (like learning any new tool/method) it takes patience, trial and error and perseverence.... but it's well worth the effort.  Also learning how to turn larger timbers I'm cutting into timber frames- now THAT takes patience.
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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2007, 08:53:51 PM »
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What insecticide did you use to seperate the bark (protect from insects)?


The insecticide had nothing to do with loosening the bark, time was used.  The insecticide was used to hold down inoculation of the logs with staining fungus when the beetles lay their eggs.  It was also to kill the adults before eggs could be laid.  Bark removed from the log should be removed from close proximation with the logs.  The sugars in the cambium and the bark itself seem to draw insects like a magnet.
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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2007, 05:50:53 AM »
  I still use an antique log spoon I found at an town sight up here. As soon as I get my new fangled digital camera I'll post a pic of it. As far as I know it was made around 1890 and it works great. I've seen others at flea markets in the States selling for about $30.
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« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2007, 08:40:38 AM »
 ??? hey jp green what have you got left to that wood mizer debarker ???

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« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2007, 11:29:01 AM »
Welcome to the Forestry Forum Donavan. 8)
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Re: Axe type used for peeling bark
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2007, 12:17:35 PM »
??? hey jp green what have you got left to that wood mizer debarker ???

What I have is a housing that has a bearing on each end supporting a drive shaft. There's a pulley on one end, and the debarker blade with carbide tips and guard shield on the other.

This is the old style Woodmizer Debarker.  You would need to fabricate the arms that hold it with springs, and a 12v motor mount. Also a piviot mount that mounts the whole assembly to the sawhead.

Quite simple actually.  It's Farmer Chris's now though, and I will supply the original debarker manual with parts breakdown for the unit, so he can easily fabricate the parts out of the book.
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