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Author Topic: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties  (Read 5333 times)

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Offline customphotobook

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We have a lot of oak (200,000 bf standing 16" diam and up) that we are getting cut, and need a portable sawyer who is full time available to cut oak for cross ties and random width for flooring.  We estimate starting cutting within the next 30 days or so.  The mill could be kept at our location evening and weekend if needed, as there is usually someone always there.

We are located in geographic center of West Virginia, 12 miles from interstate 79, an hour north of Charleston, West Virginia.  Please reply if you are interested.

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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2007, 10:12:07 AM »
Not sure I can help you but PM me some more details on location and what you need.  I am located in Hurricane about 30 miles West of Charleston.  I only cut part time but may know some others.
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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2007, 03:09:52 PM »
Man I would love to get in on that but I am about 1 hour west of Morgantown in Mineral county. Don't suppose you want to truck them over here do you? :)
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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2007, 03:44:52 PM »
Glad to see you found the forum.  I was going to email back tonight but thought that this would be easier. 

Best of luck finding someone, this is the best place to start looking that's for sure.

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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2007, 04:21:39 PM »
There is a Koppers plant only 16 miles from me also.
don't know if that is who you are going to sell to or not, just trying to help.

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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2007, 04:31:49 PM »
I am new to milling but if you send me a PM with some more details on location and what you need I will see what I can do.  I am Clarksburg Wv 26301

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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2007, 05:05:57 PM »
I can't really help you with your sawing, but there may be a few things you want to look at before you plow into the sawing.

If you are sawing chestnut oak or white oak, the grade markets are pretty good for your uppers.  Unless you have a particular market you are trying to reach with the flooring, it would pay better to sell your uppers.  Keep the lowers for flooring.

Veneer markets are still good for both red oak and white oak.  For most trees, 2/3 of a tree's log value is often in the best log.  You'll make more money selling veneer than sawing them. 
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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2007, 09:53:15 PM »
Do you know of anyone who'd like to buy an old Corely portable belt driven working circular sawmill?  It has its own big diesel power unit, carriage, tracks, etc.  My dad passed away on March 11th.  He was 82.  We'd like to get it to a good home so it can feel useful again  :)  They call those things portable, and don't ask me why 'cause if it was, I wouldn't be on this forum trying to find a sawyer with a REAL portable mill.   

Moderator:  Can I post the Corely in this location as well, or should I do in another area?

We don't plan on having the veneer sawn.  We had some ice damage a couple of years ago, and some big oaks went by the wayside.  I'd like to get those slabbed for table tops.  We have some real nice oak, white, red, scarlet, black, chestnut still standing and possible good veneer.  We have it under forest management plan.  The place that takes the cross ties and poplar posts is about 17 miles from us located in Sutton WV.  I had them fax the pricing to us.  I called and questioned them about the cross-ties and confirmed that they will accept mutliple ties cut from one log.  As long as the tie doesn't "bow" it's okay.  When it comes to switch ties, the real long ones up to 17 feet, they have to be cut from one log.

Regarding the veneer market, there is such a discrepancy in pricing and quotes.  I've heard that white oak is commanding good prices but where are the buyers???  One veneer buyer contacted us and said he'd consider buying in the summer, and I said "Yeah, we'd have to "wick" the tree by leaving the top on with branches to help expire the moisture evenly.  To protect the wood for sure, we would need to paint the ends.  So, it got me to thinking "What is the best product to paint the ends with to help with checking and preserve the value"?

What is considered a good price from a mill on oak random width cuts for flooring?

We have 300 acres of forested land, and FREE natural gas.  We're hoping to build some wood drying kilns, and make them available to the community at a reasonable rate (since the gas is free to us) to help promote people to do something more with their logs then just send them to China and Japan! 

JimMoore - how much do you charge for sawing on location and what type of mill do you have?

Tom at Salvage Creek - Thanks!!!

I haven't done forums before, so not sure as to how to reach people to chat with them in person.  I'd like to get some more information from the people who replied.  If you'd like, you can go to our website at customphotobook dot com and call me at the number located there or submit your information through our form.


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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2007, 05:54:57 AM »
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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2007, 06:02:34 AM »
The grade markets for red oak can go from $350 to $875, depending on grade.  For white oak, it can go from $350 to $1400, depending on grade.  Your upper grades don't go for flooring and command a better price.

Multiple ties are OK if the log supports it from a grade standpoint.  White oak is better to make only one tie per log since the market is really good.  Red oak would depend how much good quality is in the log.  I rarely cut an oak log into 2 or more ties.  It also depends on how tough your tie buyer is.  Mine gives me no rejects, and I give him no junk. 

We have veneer buyers in on a weekly basis.  We can sell just about anything that has the value for a better price than sawing.  We just sold a bunch of black birch.  You have to find these buyers, and your state forestry department is a good place to start.  We don't end seal any of our logs.

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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2007, 06:23:31 AM »
CustomPhotobook,

Glad to see you found the Forum.  Hopefully you can find someone that can do the job right without too much travel expenses. 

The Forum has a Commercial area to post for sale items.  You could also check out sawmillexchange.com.

Welcome to the best forestry/sawmilling forum on the net.

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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2007, 11:40:33 AM »
Two Saw:  Where are you at in Mineral Co.  I'm in Grant Co.

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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2007, 05:19:09 PM »
Brooksmill I am in Fort Ashby.
about 16 miles form Romney.
I pm'd you and asked a couple questions.
got to go to work now
re-pm me when you get a chance.
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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2007, 08:43:53 AM »
Hey customphotobook,
Just wondering if you found someone.  I sent you a PM a few days ago. 

Thanks!!
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2007, 10:20:27 PM »
Customphoto, I would love to help you out but that's too big a job for my part time operation.  I am spreading the word though.
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Re: Need portable mill operator in West Virginia to saw cross ties
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2007, 10:22:26 PM »
Hey CustomPhotoBook,

   I sent you a PM a few days ago as well. I'm working on buying a million board feet up your way and could very well accomadate you. PM me or e-mail me. My e-mail is in my profile.

Thanks,

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