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end grain planeing
« on: June 20, 2007, 04:43:30 AM »
is it possible to plane end grain wood? am making clocks from cookies and want them super smooth..what are some other options?

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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2007, 06:32:15 AM »
I think it can be done with super sharp hand plane. But myself I would use a router bridge to plane it down level and semi smooth, then sand to the finish you desire :)

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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2007, 06:57:41 AM »
I have a helix head on my Jet planer - it does a wonderful job on knots and such. I would be surprised if it didn't do well with end grain. You might want to attach some wood around it so that you don't tear out as you come to the end.

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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2007, 07:58:15 AM »
I am curious as to how you are going to keep the cookies from cracking and splitting. This will be an interesting thread. Take lots of pictures and keep us up to date.
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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2007, 09:05:17 AM »
In addition to the previous comments, be sure that the 'crack' is not parallel to the blade.  Ianab has the safest suggestion, as I see it.
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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2007, 11:59:35 AM »
How about burl??  Can that be planed??
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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2007, 03:30:19 PM »
I have sent endgrain cutting boards through my benchtop planer with no trouble.  If you spritz it with a water bottle before sending it through it makes for a real nice cut.  The very end on the cut - last 1/8" - will splinter away a bit, but extra lenghth will give you some clean up material.
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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2007, 03:40:01 PM »
seems like that 18 to 24 inch belt sander would be just the ticket. the one that they are looking for in the wanted section.

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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2007, 03:54:59 PM »
it's real easy to burn endgrain with a sander.
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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2007, 04:22:39 PM »
Turningfool,
If the end grain has a real rough cut to it, I like to use an electric handheld planer set for a very light cut. Once I get the roughness knocked off, I prefer to use a palm sander with 40 grit to get the planer marks out and smooth it up a bit, then I work my way through the grits up to 600 grit. I'm sure other methods work as well, but this works for me.

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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2007, 10:38:14 PM »
Last year I got a call from a guy wanting to know if I could plan a 24inch wide, 3inch thick board for him. With my 25 inch planer I told him it would be no problem. He showed up with a 24 in diameter cookie 3inch thick. :o I tried it with my woodmaster planer and to my supprise it planed quiet well. It was still green and hackberry, so was fairly soft.  I don't think I will try any end grain dry pecan. ::)

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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2007, 08:04:49 AM »
I used to make clocks out of round slabs, I'd send them down to the school and let the shop class run them thu a thickness sander. Did a fantastic job, prior to finishing I'd spray it with water to make the grain stand and run a scraper over it to give it a nice shave.
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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2007, 02:52:39 PM »
There are actually so called "low angle" handplanes which are intended for endgrain. I have never used one though and do not know how well they work, nor if they are made any more.
I think sanding is the way to go. A belt sander or even better if somebody has a thickness sander nearby.

I may be wrong though.

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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2007, 09:14:14 PM »
Turningfool, I just did one several weeks back with a belt sander.
The cookie was only about 12" dia. but it did take a good while to do both sides.
Can be done though. :)

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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2007, 07:10:15 AM »
How are you guys keeping the cookie from cracking and splitting?
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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2007, 07:33:32 AM »
Tom,

I plane those cookies in my 25" spiral head and they come out smooth and shiny. Works great.
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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2007, 05:05:58 AM »
thanks for all of the comments..i did try a large belt sander and it worked just fine,then hand/power sanded down to 12,000 grit with the micro-mesh sanding discs..looks terrific..patty..i use pentacryl on green wood to keep cookies from checking on me but find that if waxed well and the thickness of the cookie is symmetrical they dry very quickly without any checks ..got a couple from kevjay and they are flawless..

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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2007, 06:08:13 AM »
A lot of people use 2 in one epoxy for making clocks on cookies. But, I think they use something as a pretreatment. Might be something similar to TF's method. Had a fellow make a clock from an old cypress stump.
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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2007, 12:40:14 PM »
Here is one I ran through the planer a couple weeks ago. It has no preservative or sealer on this end. I need to seal it again. If you want to see a close up of it Tom I'll take another picture.

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Re: end grain planeing
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2007, 12:07:01 AM »
I've planed the endgrain of a board with a handplane and got a nice smooth end.  Be sure to clamp a scrap board on the edge of the board that will be at the other end of your stroke. If you don't, you'll split wood off the edge with every stroke.  Make sure you plane is sharp and set for a thin cut. I turn my plane at about a 45° angle so the blade slices into the wood. It's not a big deal. It works.  Try it on some scrap.
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