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Offline Norm

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« on: August 21, 2008, 12:51:56 PM »
I'm turning my garage into living area and am in the process of tearing out the garage doors to put in sliding door units. They will sit on the cement floor of the opening which is not perfectly level but pretty close. What is the best method to use under the units for sealing them. Here's a picture of the garage area I'm talking about.



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Re: Construction ?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2008, 12:57:34 PM »
Is the 50 cal going to be involved?
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Re: Construction ?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2008, 01:35:18 PM »
Silicone Caulking? Or something of that sort.

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Re: Construction ?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2008, 02:00:02 PM »
A silicone type caulking under the sill plate to prevent most of the water coming in, and a layer of the adhesive roofing membrane directly on the concrete- this will prevent water from wicking up into the wood, and the caulking will prevent water running in.

Thats how I would do it at least.

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Re: Construction ?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2008, 02:43:23 PM »

   I would add to what ksu said , I would put a peice of expanble foam or shoot some foam under the door sill ... that would take care of any voids the ciment might create by not being level .
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Re: Construction ?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2008, 03:52:57 PM »
There are many good sealing compounds you can use, but none of them will be permanent if water can stand on any ledge outside the doors. So whatever you use make sure it extends out over the concrete and does not allow water to wick back under the door sill.

If there is any outside exposed ledge, make sure it is tapered away from the door.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2008, 04:25:23 PM »
You live in an impressive, almost Fort-looking, house. :)
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2008, 04:56:00 PM »
Kinda looks like my house. But my house is alot smaller , not made from brick , it is white , and when it was put there it had wheels under it. Well ......... maybe it don't look like my house after all!  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Very nice house there Norm.

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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2008, 05:24:12 PM »
But I do have a BBQ grill like the one in the picture!!  :D   :D  :D  :D  :D

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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2008, 05:51:42 PM »
That is a beautiful house, Norm!

(I have one of those grills too :).).
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2008, 06:01:11 PM »
Nice home Norm and Patty. Sorry I ain't much good as a carpenter.  ;D As you know with my long winded wood working plans, I'm mostly an experimenter with a lot of math and cogitating. ;)
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2008, 09:36:53 PM »
Hey Corley,  you don't reckon?????? ;)
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Re: Construction ?
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2008, 09:59:20 PM »
I'm turning my garage into living area ........................
Any  tips are appreciated.


My advice is to not make Patty mad and you will not have to move into the garage. ;) ;D
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2008, 10:20:30 PM »
  When I was building I always used a whole tube of caulk under a patio door, so it oozed out and cut the excess off after it was dry. All you have to do if you are going to side around the patio doors is hang the siding down 1" over the edge of the concrete so the water doesn't collect next to the sill plate.  Use sill sealer under your plate and anchor down with drill type anchors. Hope that makes sense.
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Re: Construction ?
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2008, 12:15:02 AM »
I would put ICE and WATER shield on the bottom of the door sill then use a sill seal   and a good longlasting caulk . At least two beads oneon  inside and one on outside edge. Then make sure that any concrete outside the door sill is sloping away from the door .  In fact that is realy the first step , cut the leading edge of door openingto drain watr away.
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2008, 02:57:51 AM »
Gday

Dad and I built about 25 log homes overhere and we always used pollyurathane to seal between the logs on chinked logwork  and weather proofing the homes compacts to 25% stretches to 250% Bostic or Sikkens makes it in the US

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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2008, 07:14:51 AM »
Thanks for all the tips folks, it's appreciated. :)

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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2008, 07:38:19 AM »
IMHO,this is no time to try to save a dollar.Probaly some of the above products,in price,would make me say,that's ain't right.But I would pay the price and be happy for many years because it worked.
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2008, 07:48:05 AM »
If it were me I would first use sill sealer foam then a 1 x 6 board ripped to fit the door. Then use concrete nails using the gun. Using the yellow bullets and fitting nails. Then use silicone on top of the board.. This way the door sits up just a little allowing for flooring and it can be attached to the board as well so the sill is not loose.

Just the way I would do it.

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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2008, 05:19:12 PM »
I'll be another one to vote for the urethane caulks over silicone. NP1 by Sonneborne is popular around here, usually from trade suppliers. Silicone is a caulk I use to explain the difference between adhesion and cohesion. Have you ever noticed that silicone can very often be removed a year or two later as an intact rope? It has very good cohesive properties, it sticks to itself very well and that rope will undoutedly last the entire advertised 50 years. It also has lousy adhesive properties, it bonds to few other things well. Urethane on the other hand bonds to just about everything well, the caulk tube, your hands and britches... well, you get the idea  :D.
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