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Creek or stream or ?????
« on: June 15, 2009, 06:57:41 AM »
I was throwin back a couple of cold ones yesterday evening with friend, when we got talkin about the river.
    So what I'd like too know is; How does one "water way" get the "creek" label, others are "streams" some are "brooks" and "runs"? Is it a regional thing or is there more too it?
I was thinkin, maybe it has too do with the length or volume of water.
    I didn't google it yet, I figured this would be as good or better.

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Re: Creek or stream or ?????
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 07:23:14 AM »

 I would think it's a "local" term.

  Down here, any moving water is a "River", even a spring fed flow.  ::) ;D
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Re: Creek or stream or ?????
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 08:06:31 AM »
you mean a crick?
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Re: Creek or stream or ?????
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 08:11:05 AM »
you mean a crick?

Ouch, how'd that get there, I thought it was in my neck!

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Re: Creek or stream or ?????
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 08:15:20 AM »
I dunno we always called creeks, cricks
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 08:44:36 AM »
or branch..
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2009, 09:26:16 AM »
In this area, it goes something like this!

Crick - - - - - Usually not over 2-3 feet wide and maybe no more than a foot deep.  We have no "CREEKS" here.
                     Cricks flow into brooks.
Brook  - - - - Maybe 20-30 feet wide and varying in depth, from a few inches to several feet.
                     Brooks flow into branches.
Branch - - - - Usually 30-50 feet wide and varying 10-20 feet deep.
                     Branches flow into rivers.
River - - - - - Usually well over 50 feet wide, and varying from a few feet to maybe as much as 100 feet deep!
                     Rivers flow into bigger rivers or the ocean.

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Re: Creek or stream or ?????
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2009, 09:52:38 AM »
Anything that small I generally call a rill, unless its only seasonal, in which case it is a sike. 8)

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Re: Creek or stream or ?????
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2009, 10:19:55 AM »

 I would think it's a "local" term.

  Down here, any moving water is a "River", even a spring fed flow.  ::) ;D

Nope, that would be a quebrada, The rivers are only those on the map, quebradas rarely are seen on maps. Size really isn't the issue here, it is length. It could be a big quebrada, but only go a kilometer until it hits a river, or it could be a river, though in our section, very small.

In my experience, creeks are short, rivers are long. Cricks are creeks that go through cow pastures... :D
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2009, 10:23:26 AM »
Must be a colloquial thing.  When I was a kid growing up in Georgia, folks usually referred to a small stream as a "branch."  Around here, they tend to use "creek" more.  You'll never hear anyone call a stream a "brook" unless it is babbling. ::) :D  The water around here doesn't usually babble, though some people do.  If someone know's the name of a stream, they usually use that term, but there doesn't seem to be any real criteria that assigns the names.  I know of creeks that flow into branches, then into other creeks or rivers.  Some rivers flow into other rivers, but never into a creek, as far as I know.  If you look on a map, you only see creeks, branches, and rivers.

While we're at it, what's the difference between a pond and a lake? :P  Why are some named Lake So-and-so, and others named Such-and-such Lake?
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Re: Creek or stream or ?????
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2009, 10:25:31 AM »
And why is Ricky Lake sometimes big and sometimes small?
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2009, 10:28:24 AM »
Water retention.  ;D  *ducks and runs*

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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2009, 10:33:53 AM »
And why is Ricky Lake sometimes big and sometimes small?
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2009, 11:08:59 AM »
Around here its streams or runs that flow into creeks that flow into rivers that flow into the bay or ocean. 

Some of our creeks are bigger than your river definition. 
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2009, 11:42:50 AM »
Must be a colloquial thing.  When I was a kid growing up in Georgia, folks usually referred to a small stream as a "branch."  Around here, they tend to use "creek" more.  You'll never hear anyone call a stream a "brook" unless it is babbling. ::) :D  The water around here doesn't usually babble, though some people do.  If someone know's the name of a stream, they usually use that term, but there doesn't seem to be any real criteria that assigns the names.  I know of creeks that flow into branches, then into other creeks or rivers.  Some rivers flow into other rivers, but never into a creek, as far as I know.  If you look on a map, you only see creeks, branches, and rivers.

While we're at it, what's the difference between a pond and a lake? :P  Why are some named Lake So-and-so, and others named Such-and-such Lake?

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Re: Creek or stream or ?????
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2009, 01:33:01 PM »
 
 Crick/creek runs into the brook
the brook runs into the stream
the stream runs into the branch/river
the branch runs into the river
the river flows into the seaway
seaway into the golf , then to the ocean .

  or something like that .   :)
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2009, 01:36:14 PM »
Around here its streams or runs that flow into creeks that flow into rivers that flow into the bay or ocean. 

Some of our creeks are bigger than your river definition. 

Ron, some of our creeks are bigger than some of our rivers, too.  We also have a couple of well known "rivers" that ain't rivers at all.  They are actually lagoons.  The only map of Penn. I have is in the road atlas, but I was able to pick out one "Branch" in your State, and I caught a "Run" sneaking into a river without benefit of a creek. :o  Y'all don't seem to have an Ocean at all.  You got some frontage on Lake Erie, but my map doesn't indicate that you're contributing much water to it.  Most of your rivers seem to be feeding other rivers.

Now that I've thoroughly butchered your post, ;D  I'm gonna agree with it.  That's just the way I think of them too, except for the "runs" part.  Around here, "runs" is something entirely different. :D :D :D
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2009, 01:49:00 PM »
Don't ferget the "fork's".

North fork, south fork, etc.  :) :)
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2009, 02:27:39 PM »
LL I know isthat our creeks are much bigger than most(but not all) the rivers in the great plains. I think the people out there are so amazed to find flowing water that they call it a river no matter how small, course a hundred and fifly years ago most of their rivers probably had a lot morer water in them.

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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2009, 04:47:26 PM »
DanG, those branches are usually things like the West Branch of the Susquehanna River.  We even have branches on creeks.  I've even seen a few branches on trees. 

We don't have ocean frontage, but the Delaware river has 56 miles of tidal water in the state.  The boat commission says we have 83,261 miles of rivers and streams.  There was no mention of creeks or runs, but I'm sure they're included.   ;)
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