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Author Topic: Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?  (Read 5732 times)

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Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?
« on: January 19, 2010, 06:11:10 PM »
I'd like to use the ash from my EC2300 in my compost/vegetable garden.  My only worry is the Ashtrol and what might be in it.  Anybody know if its ok?

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Re: Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2010, 07:26:18 PM »
I think it's just lime and as to the garden, it's going to depend on the pH of your soil.
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Re: Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2010, 07:27:51 PM »
I don't know what ashtrol is, but straight wood ashes are fine. Only thing is, if your growing taters they'll get scabby. But won't be harmful, just not smooth skinned.
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Re: Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2010, 09:00:03 PM »
I was told that ashtrol was just lime too. I just buy a bag of lime and use that instead of buying ashtrol from Central Boiler for way too much.
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Re: Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2010, 10:06:04 PM »
Why is it used?
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Re: Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2010, 03:00:14 AM »
There are also some nutrients in ash. I know it will grow nice tall, dark green, grass in the ditch where I dump the ash can in winter. The little box elder growing there seems to like it too. ;D
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Re: Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 04:47:45 PM »
Why is it used?

Ashtrol is used to keep the inside of the firebox in your Central Boiler cleaner.
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Re: Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2010, 01:09:21 AM »
Why is it used?

From the Central Boiler Manual "Ashtrol is a pH modifier that helps to neutralize acids that may form in the firebox.

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Re: Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 07:47:24 AM »
So that would make it a carbonate or a lime product presumably if used to raise pH of the ash. Most likely used to avoid acid corrosion byproducts from attacking steel. My guess.

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Re: Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2010, 08:18:33 AM »
Yea, but nobody really knows what's in it.  I'm going to make some calls and see if I can get a definitive answer.  I just assume not poison myself unless absolutely necessary.   :D

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Re: Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2010, 11:41:53 AM »
It was discussed here last year, and someone did know. Maybe a search will bring it up. The lime seemed to be the answer, just packaged with the trade name.  But prolly should not go on what I recall.  :)


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Re: Ashtrol ash, ok to use in garden?
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2010, 09:52:12 PM »
Wood ashes can be problematic in a vegetable garden. They do have nutrient value.  They contain no nitrogen, but do contain some phosphorus and a signifcant amount of potassium.  I've read that the term potash originates from the Dutch word for wood ashes, potasch.

Wood ashes also contain calcium carbonate and will increase soil PH in the same way as lime.  Roughly speaking it takes about twice the amount by weight of ashes to raise soil PH to the same degree as a given amouint of lime. Many vegetables (and fruit) crops prefer a soil PH below 7.  A few, potatoes and blue berries for example, like the PH to be down around 5.5.

Depending on the PH of the garden soil and the crops being grown wood ashes might raise the PH above desirable levels.  If ashtrol is lime or similar to lime in chemical composition it may increase the alkalinity of the ashes.
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