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Hogs
« on: May 16, 2010, 02:22:26 PM »
The hogs that the idiot turned loose a few years ago are really tearing the neighborhood up.  This is the result of what appears to be one large one that got into our front yard the last two nights.  This is the second time this year for the front yard and they've got the woods torn to a fair-thee-well.  The problem in controlling them is that adjoining properties are owned by absentee landowners who do not want anyone on their property for any reason.   One is from Ohio and owns fifty acres to the west of me and the other is the wetlands mitigation property to the east that is owned by a Real Estate agent from somewhere who made his home and business on the other side of town, about 40 miles away.  Neither visits the properties but have made their feelings known.
 


Here is a picture from up toward the front of the yard toward the house to show the rooting of about a third of an acre.
 


I am showing this similar shot just to show off the new crop of Baldwin pears.  :D


Boy!!   Is Gael Ticked.

Some boys came from Middleburg today (about 60 miles away) because they like to hog hunt and saw the opportunity.  They didn't have a good time. The yellow flies ate them alive.  They did kill a 140 pound sow, but said that she was too far back in the scrub to get her out.  They left her carcass to the hordes of yellow flies, mosquitoes, and other vermin and fought their way back to the house through blackberry brambles and briars, "as big as my arm", he said.   

Thomas Swamp is a rough place and not for highlanders used to walking in a mowed pasture.  :D
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Re: Hogs
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2010, 02:38:54 PM »

 Why won't your neighbors let you on their property? Seems to me that if you're having a problem with the pigs they would be happy to help you out by letting you shoot them.
 Are they just like this or are most people down your way like that?
 Out here it would be a call and grab your guns and go at it!

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Re: Hogs
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2010, 03:26:53 PM »
Looks like a good opportunity for a red filtered Q-beam and a light sporter..... ;)
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Re: Hogs
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2010, 03:40:27 PM »
Well if they never visit the properties then I guess they would never know if somebody shot some hogs there.

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Re: Hogs
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2010, 03:46:38 PM »
Tom, I know what your going through. Even though we do not have wild hogs here, in the past we had some that a farmer let roam where they pleased. Heck even his horses and cows didn't know where home was. ::) They will tear up potatoes and grain like you describe. I do believe we did get some free range pork one fall as did a cousin or two.  ;D

Tom, you need to find a grass or something that smells and tastes like skunk so them hogs stay away. ;)
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2010, 04:03:35 PM »
Bad thing about Tom's situation is that once you get feral hogs.....you got feral hogs.   >:(

Roaches and mice would be easier to get rid of.
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Re: Hogs
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2010, 04:11:06 PM »
Thought about building a trap?

Need a sturdy pen with a drop gate on a trip wire and something tasty as bait.

You will only catch a couple before they get smart and learn not to go in there, but it's a couple less, and they are usually good eating so it worth the trouble.

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Re: Hogs
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2010, 04:42:25 PM »

 Why won't your neighbors let you on their property?


Last year I took a logging safety course and one of the instructors was a former DEA agent and he warned us about the hazards of remote and isolated growing sites. If you happen on to one of those isolated sites, best advice is to get out of there quick. Most of them are watched by some heavily armed sentries and they know how to make some very nasty booby traps. And then there are abandon meth labs that are extremely toxic.

So be very careful about going onto remote private property.
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2010, 10:00:32 PM »
I had a friend that trapped a couple of wild pigs and gave them to me. I put the mean rascals in a pen and fed them for about 2 months. I got to feeling sorry for them and turned them loose. I think it is against the law to turn them back into the wild, but I did it anyway. Well, they took offf across the pasture and I thought i would never see them again. The next day, I was taking a nap and my wife said, baby, come look at this. They were both back that next afternoon, snapping their teeth in the back yard, wanting me to feed them.

They hung around and ate and were gone again. day after day they came back about the same time to eat and then would leave. The next time my wife said, baby, come look at this, it was a different scenario. They had rooted up my backyard so bad, it looked like a an airplane crashed back there. My daughter said, they're gonna get the bullet tonight. I let it slide that first night, but they returned the second night and done it again.

I trapped them in the pen that I raised them in and had a buddy shoot both of them. We skinned them out and had some delicious sausage made. I hated to do it, but if I didn't, they would have wrecked my place.

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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2010, 02:04:50 AM »
 :-X    :D :D
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Re: Hogs
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2010, 10:15:43 AM »

 Why won't your neighbors let you on their property?


Last year I took a logging safety course and one of the instructors was a former DEA agent and he warned us about the hazards of remote and isolated growing sites. If you happen on to one of those isolated sites, best advice is to get out of there quick. Most of them are watched by some heavily armed sentries and they know how to make some very nasty booby traps. And then there are abandon meth labs that are extremely toxic.

So be very careful about going onto remote private property.

Also, Who knows, the actual land owner may be watching you too!
With today's technology comes the satellite controlled camera systems.  This idea stops a lot of trespassers.
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Re: Hogs
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2010, 12:10:43 AM »
Well, neither of these landowners are from around here.  They are from Up the country.  I'll not say where, to keep from causing any grief, but they did have to pass through Kentucky to get here.

If a man says that he doesn't want me on his property, I don't go on his property.  I always felt that was a simple and righteous rule to follow.  Some people just see the world through different eyes and consider others not worth spit.

We've been trying to trap these hogs for two years now.  There are some young fellows who have built traps and placed them in the woods, but each will get about two and then the hogs won't go in again.

Hunting them sounds like fun, but we are dealing with tons of them. I'm not talking about 20 in a field, I'm talking about ten or twenty miles of hardwood river swamp.  There is muck, water, trees, shrubs, briar, thickets of small, stunted trees, yellow flies, mosquitoes, ticks, alligators, at least one bear, and just about anything else that you can think of that would make it impassible.   The boys didn't even try to bring the 140 lb. sow out that they shot.  I don't know how big the herd(s) is now, but I'll bet that the one directly behind me is in the hundreds. 

Shooting a pig for food now and again helps the table, but you couldn't eat this many and finding them is almost impossible.  You usually see where they were.  These are wild hogs, solid black tuskers, not breeds of domestic pig that got loose.   They are narrow, tall, strong, mean, very lean and have tusks that could rip you open from your ankles to your belly button.  Trapping is the only way and it will have to be a full fledged effort for many years, I'm afraid.
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Re: Hogs
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2010, 12:48:31 AM »
There is an easy way to catch them hogs Tom, and here it is:

You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in The last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat, you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.

There is more to go with this story, but it gets political so I'll not post it here.
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2010, 01:10:57 AM »

Shooting a pig for food now and again helps the table, but you couldn't eat this many and finding them is almost impossible. 

 What if all the members here came down for a good old fashion pig roast. :) Make it a week long thing and I'm thinking it might fix your problems. 8)

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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2010, 10:15:31 AM »
Jeff will need a hog in 81 days!  ;)
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2010, 10:32:46 AM »
Wild hogs can be nasty and tough.  The fat can have a wild taste.  They are best penned and fed out to clean out all of the nastiness. 
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2010, 01:00:05 PM »
One of the gents at the round table this morning was complaining that he shot a momma hog in his pasture and now the piglets (a little over a foot long) have grown used to the feed in the horse lot, so he has to kick them out of the way to get in the lot.  Of course we all suggest he pen them, feed them, and turn them into people food.  He allowed as how he did not want to mess with hogs, and figures he will just shoot them and let the buzzards have a meal. 

Then his son called, and the conversation was repeated, now the son is soon to be the proud owner of a dozen or so pigs, all he has to do is trap them.  The son is known to be a heavy trencherman.

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2010, 02:14:24 PM »
It/they, came back and tore up some more yard last night.  If I didn't have to sit up all night in the mosquitoes, I'd get my shotgun or rifle and sit on the bed of the work truck.  You never know when they will show up.  Dang quiet though.

Gael is really ticked!!

Neighbors say they are going to come shoot them, but never show up.
The boys that came the other day, spilled some corn and the stupid pigs didn't even eat it.   I don't know what they are after that would be better than a free snack of corn.

Trying to eradicate hogs in the swamp is likened to eradicating mosquitoes with a fly swatter.
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2010, 07:05:12 PM »
Tom.
Does Florida have an open hunting season on them? It sounds like you have a tough landscape to hunt them in.
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2010, 08:30:20 PM »
Yes, Ron, Hogs are open season.   They do seem to want to live in the roughest areas that Florida has to offer.   Some of the young fellows go bustin' into the swamp with dogs, but as I've gotten older, I look at the palmettos and stumps that I can't jump over anymore.   If it were chasing a rabbit, It wouldn't scare me, but when the shoe is on the other foot, and it might be a Hog chasing me, I've become a bit leary.  :D
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