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Offline Shagy

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NY DEC takes a beating
« on: June 28, 2010, 11:13:56 AM »
After 11 public hearings the DEC has taken such a beating on the proposed regulations on outdoor boilers thet are now going to rewrite from the start. Mr Barns of the DEC who wrote this as instructed by Attorney General Como and Gov Patterson anounced at the last 2 meetings they would rewrite this proposal. Do I trust our great leaders??? NO but this is what they say they will do. THANKS to all who stood up to the State and made this possible. Out of 20,000 + boilers the DEC had 70 formal complaints. They need to look at those and not the rest who properly burn their units
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Re: NY DEC takes a beating
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2010, 09:37:27 PM »
A few bad apples always spoil it for the others. But there are some that will make complaint without even getting all the facts.Just because someone else has seen "one" that smokes all the time.  ::)
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Re: NY DEC takes a beating
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2010, 02:10:10 PM »
70 complaints against 20,000 units???  When i read the proposal my first thought was the proposal was written by the petrolum institite.  It seems every time us "little people" try to do something to become energy independent a government program is written to bring us back in line. Some times it is hard not to become a vast government conspericy theoryist.

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Re: NY DEC takes a beating
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2010, 03:35:17 PM »
This makes me cautiously optimistic about being able to keep my boiler operating and saving me about $2500 a year not buying fuel oil. I would also bet that those 70 complaints were duplicates about the same ones. I did a lot of planning when I put mine in and my neighbors are 50' on both sides of me and they have not been smoked out once in a year and a half and I burn mine right through the summer. You just have to smart about how you operate it. There is a guy across the street from me that has one and 4 or 5 people have in-formally complained about it because they say he burns garbage in his. I have talked to him and he denies it and has a don't care attitude about it. Tonto.
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Re: NY DEC takes a beating
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2010, 08:00:46 PM »
Glad to hear the proposed regulations are being redone.
I attended the hearing in cortland and only one fellow was in favor of the regs as written due to a neighbor burning all sorts of trash.
I hope they come up with something reasonable, but ain't holdin my breath.
I am in the country and have had no problems with either mine or my 3 neighbors furnaces which are within about 1/8 mile from me.
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Re: NY DEC takes a beating
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2010, 10:29:11 PM »
While I am not from NY, I would like to stay on top of this issue as regulation is also ongoing in Maryland.  Is there a site that I can review the struck down regs?  Could you guys also let us know when the rewritten regs are made public.

It is apparent to me that this issue is going to grow bigger than any one state in the coming years.  It behooves all of us who use OWHHs to be knowlegable about these political winds and the changes they bring.

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Re: NY DEC takes a beating
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2010, 08:23:39 PM »
I'm sure there will be posts as this progresses, haven't heard anything yet
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