Those wonderfull old Husqvarna's...model 61 Ranchers thru 272XP's

[Real1shepherd]

My son told us in HS that he was going to be with a rich woman and be taken care of someday. That's exactly how it played out and she was from just outside NYC. They moved to Manhattan and then to an apt in Brooklyn they just bought. For the money they paid for the apt, they could have bought a real house with a yard in the Bronx.

In some ways now, he's a total stranger. Kid raised on a farm with his ex-logger dad. I don't know how you can just 'convert' yourself like that, but he did. My oldest son was more like me, but got all tangled up in drugs and bad people. Now he's gone so I just have the one son. So in spite of our differences I cherish what we have, when we have it.

I think most people differentiate between NYC and 'upstate NY'. I certainly do.....salt of the earth people who have nothing to do with NYC.

Funny about the plasticized 910e. I was running a Husky 2100 with a J'reds 80 for backup at the time in CO. Guy gave me a 910e to run all day in the woods.....it had just come out. It was OK, but it didn't walk all over the 80, so I didn't buy one. I feared all the plastic, but in hindsight, it was the wave of the future.

Kevin

 

[beenthere]

snobdds
You may have not seen this thread.
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=119204.msg1911734#msg1911734

[snobdds]

snobdds
You may have not seen this thread.
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=119204.msg1911734#msg1911734

That is the most boomer thread I've seen. 
:D

[HolmenTree]

Bob, retirement is good, with 1 pound of weight off my shoulders one day at a time.
Hang in there someone will see the opportunity as you're definitely in a prosperous state of the union.

Kevin, I hear you.  My daughter moved to the largest city in Canada a year ago and she's not looking back as she's doing very well for herself in school.  But she is flying out to the Squamish BC loggers sports to see me in competition August long weekend which is nice.

The 910 doesn't have the torque of the 80 that's for sure. But it's 87cc made to rev with it's extremely light weight made it a real contender in ground level felling, limbing and topping  small to medium spruce/ pine that I was working cut and skid in.

[HolmenTree]

The Jonsereds 80 was an incredible powerhouse for its size, pull the bottom piston ring running just the top ring and the 80 will rev to another level.
Only a well broke in Jonsereds 90 will keep up to a 80 in that class during that era.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
The 181 the best of the best in 1982. Also introduced in 1982 the 266,  Rancher 50 and Jonsered 630.

[Old Greenhorn]

Well I didn't know this was happening, but @Spike60 is doing a live radio show right now on WIOX in Roxbury, NY. You can listen live at: http://s1.streammonster.com:8263/stream or it will be available as a podcast next Thursday. Sorry for the short notice, I am just listening now.

[Old Greenhorn]

It was a great show Bob. I bet somebody gets a few emails from insulted city folks! I enjoyed that no end, kind of like sitting at Synder's and listening to the local talk. Interesting and insightful observation about the difference between the influx in the 80-90's and the one we have now. I think you guys were spot on.
 I hope somebody comes along with the skills and interest in making your shop run. We all need it really badly. It's gonna leave a big hole in the team.

[DHansen]

Thanks Old Greenhorn for the heads up on Bob's broadcast.

Lots of cool old adds.

[Real1shepherd]

The Jonsereds 80 was an incredible powerhouse for its size, pull the bottom piston ring running just the top ring and the 80 will rev to another level.
Only a well broke in Jonsereds 90 will keep up to a 80 in that class during that era.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
The 181 the best of the best in 1982. Also introduced in 1982 the 266,  Rancher 50 and Jonsered 630.

Willard, I have both the 80 and the 90. 32" bar on the 90, 28" bar on the 80. They are very similar. I wasn't knocking the 910e, as I have the potential to make three of them. I just haven't had the time so far to pit the 910e against the 80/90.

In that pic of the 910e, that's 'Denny' the PNW logger. He's always seen with a 910e even after the 920e and 930e came out. It's just a theory, but I think they gave him the 100cc 910e. That saw was a reality and did make it to the PNW at least. Had casting problems with it though and some were sent back. Never seen one in the flesh and how they badged it different from the standard 910e. In my mind, that would have been a game changer if they had marketed it earlier.

In any event, Electrolux Group AB cut the cord and launched into the 920 and 930/Super which as you know, were Partner/Husky saws.

Kevin

[Real1shepherd]

Well I didn't know this was happening, but @Spike60 is doing a live radio show right now on WIOX in Roxbury, NY. You can listen live at: http://s1.streammonster.com:8263/stream or it will be available as a podcast next Thursday. Sorry for the short notice, I am just listening now.

If I click that same link next Thursday, will it take me to the program?

Kevin

[Old Greenhorn]

No kevin it won't. It will be posted on the Catskill Forest Association page under 'media'.

[Spike60]

The radio shows are fun. Probably do one more in the Fall before we wind things down at the store. Are you going on again Tom? Not sure how we got on to the city folks. Maybe the re-val inspired us? Explanation there is that we've all been clobbered with higher propery values as these citiots have been over paying for homes and have blown up the real estate market. Everything in town went up 26% which is ridiculous.

Amazing history that you're sharing with us Willard. Really good that you've hung on to that stuff all these years.

As far as the 920/930 are concerned, they are more of an Elux re-engineered 910 than a different saw. The one piece handle system is certainly a Partner inspired idea. And they gave it the 288 ignition instead of that coil on plug deal from the 910. Both worthy improvements. Muffler and air filter stayed the same. Bottom end was also redone. Funny that they kept the notches in the case, but the 920 went to a 272/288 style jug that didn't have the transfers open to the case like the 910 was, but then returned to the open transfers on the 930, which also got an improved air filter set up.

[Old Greenhorn]

Well I really enjoyed the show and look forward to the replay to catch some things I missed while the wife was making comments (she talks back to the radio just like the TV). You were only saying what most of us are thinking and have been thinking for a long time. Your town has the rockiest history of all those around us for tax rates. When sister bought their 1st house over in Brown's Station is the early 70's the annual taxes were $300.00 (property and school). When the city pulled the lawsuit deal and the rates shot up like a rocket (90's?) they moved to West Hurley.
 Anyway, it was an enjoyable show, but I missed the first 5 minutes. No I don't have plans to return and I'm not sure they want me after the last one ;D. But if they ask, sure I'll go back. But I am not as interesting as you. :D I would have liked to take part in that sawmilling one they had a couple of weeks ago because I thought it was slanted more to the hobby miller and did not explain a lot of things about making lumber the public could have gained from. But in just an hour, it is very hard to cover it all.

[Real1shepherd]

The radio shows are fun. Probably do one more in the Fall before we wind things down at the store. Are you going on again Tom? Not sure how we got on to the city folks. Maybe the re-val inspired us? Explanation there is that we've all been clobbered with higher propery values as these citiots have been over paying for homes and have blown up the real estate market. Everything in town went up 26% which is ridiculous.

Amazing history that you're sharing with us Willard. Really good that you've hung on to that stuff all these years.

As far as the 920/930 are concerned, they are more of an Elux re-engineered 910 than a different saw. The one piece handle system is certainly a Partner inspired idea. And they gave it the 288 ignition instead of that coil on plug deal from the 910. Both worthy improvements. Muffler and air filter stayed the same. Bottom end was also redone. Funny that they kept the notches in the case, but the 920 went to a 272/288 style jug that didn't have the transfers open to the case like the 910 was, but then returned to the open transfers on the 930, which also got an improved air filter set up.

Bob,
Not that I'm just a J'reds purest, but in talking with loggers who bought and used the whole 900 series, they preferred the 910 best of all. They disliked the 'clunky' Partner handle design. Granted you had to be careful with the 910 trigger handle with yanking, or you'd rip the A/V's. A couple of guys told me the 910e revved freer than the 920/930. I can't say one way or the other because I can't test that claim.

Getting away from the coil/plug arrangement of the 910e was definitely an improvement.

I know from your vids, you really like the 930 Super.

Kevin

[HolmenTree]

Kevin and Bob,
Thanks to Tom too for sharing that radio link.
Like Bob said the 930 which is a strong runner shares the open transfer port ducts like the 910 has.
I have to ask Bob what were those notches left on the 920 case?

[Al_Smith]

J-Red, Partner and Husqvarna were never strong sellers in this area .What happened with Husky was a power play telling dealers them or Stihl not both .they lost BTW .Bad mistake .As far as those brands from what I've seen they for the most part were all good .As I type the closest stocking dealer For Husqvarna is 40 miles away which I don't bother with and use a dealer in North Carolina for what few parts I need .The other two mentioned it's usually E-Bay .BTW I've always so far have found the parts but it might take a long time to do so .Welcome to the restoration world .

[Spike60]

By notches I meant the cut outs in the case to match the transfers.  Pre-coffee posts don't always access the proper terminology. 

[Brad Thompson]

The radio shows are fun. Probably do one more in the Fall before we wind things down at the store. Are you going on again Tom? Not sure how we got on to the city folks. Maybe the re-val inspired us? Explanation there is that we've all been clobbered with higher propery values as these citiots have been over paying for homes and have blown up the real estate market. Everything in town went up 26% which is ridiculous.

Amazing history that you're sharing with us Willard. Really good that you've hung on to that stuff all these years.

As far as the 920/930 are concerned, they are more of an Elux re-engineered 910 than a different saw. The one piece handle system is certainly a Partner inspired idea. And they gave it the 288 ignition instead of that coil on plug deal from the 910. Both worthy improvements. Muffler and air filter stayed the same. Bottom end was also redone. Funny that they kept the notches in the case, but the 920 went to a 272/288 style jug that didn't have the transfers open to the case like the 910 was, but then returned to the open transfers on the 930, which also got an improved air filter set up.

Bob,
Not that I'm just a J'reds purest, but in talking with loggers who bought and used the whole 900 series, they preferred the 910 best of all. They disliked the 'clunky' Partner handle design. Granted you had to be careful with the 910 trigger handle with yanking, or you'd rip the A/V's. A couple of guys told me the 910e revved freer than the 920/930. I can't say one way or the other because I can't test that claim.

Getting away from the coil/plug arrangement of the 910e was definitely an improvement.

I know from your vids, you really like the 930 Super.

Kevin

I have a few 910's that I haven't put together, but have been using my 920 for almost 30 years.  I have to assume the 910 was an easier start with the decomp?  It takes a little more pull on that 920.  Nothing like pulling the 80 I have, but you still have to commit.  Maybe it feels so hard to pull because I am getting a bit softer as age keeps pushing me. :-)

[Spike60]

Brad; Know the feeling on the age push. Doesn't get better either.

Kevin;  My 910 does run very strong. Never did a side by side with a 920 or 930, which I guess is long overdue. A good 930 will out cut a good 920 all things being equal. But the improved 930 cylnder wasn't on the earliest of those saws. The early ones still used the 920 jug. Changed a couple mounts on my 910, but it always feels like something needs to be tightened.

Jonsered was real popular around here, so one thing I look at is how many of a given saw survived and are still around. Significantly more 920's and 930's than 910's crossed the counter over the last 30 years. Guess that includes 820's and 830's as well. But it seemed like very few 910's were still around. So I suppose I'm factoring that in feeling the later saws were better. Granted, that's a dealer perspective, and pros who ran them in the woods are using a different measuring stick.

[Real1shepherd]

Brad; Know the feeling on the age push. Doesn't get better either.

Kevin;  My 910 does run very strong. Never did a side by side with a 920 or 930, which I guess is long overdue. A good 930 will out cut a good 920 all things being equal. But the improved 930 cylnder wasn't on the earliest of those saws. The early ones still used the 920 jug. Changed a couple mounts on my 910, but it always feels like something needs to be tightened.

Jonsered was real popular around here, so one thing I look at is how many of a given saw survived and are still around. Significantly more 920's and 930's than 910's crossed the counter over the last 30 years. Guess that includes 820's and 830's as well. But it seemed like very few 910's were still around. So I suppose I'm factoring that in feeling the later saws were better. Granted, that's a dealer perspective, and pros who ran them in the woods are using a different measuring stick.

Bob, saws that have user design flaws tend to disappear from the service repair counters eventually when there's no parts support. The trigger handle vulnerable A/V's in the 910 I suspect, contributed to the disappearance of the 910 on your service counter. Those A/V's were almost impossible to find NOS even 15 yrs ago.

Similarly, I bet most Husky dealers these days rarely see a 2100 come to the service counter, given scarcity, collector's value and lack of parts support.

Kevin

[snobdds]

One day I would like to run a Jonsered.  I doubt anyone in this area has even heard of a Jonsered. It's too bad, they sound like nice saws.  Husky is about in the same boat, very few around.  For some reason, Stihl has dominated Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana. 

[Real1shepherd]

One day I would like to run a Jonsered.  I doubt anyone in this area has even heard of a Jonsered. It's too bad, they sound like nice saws.  Husky is about in the same boat, very few around.  For some reason, Stihl has dominated Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana.

When I was loggin' on the Western Slope of CO, it was a total Husky show. What's happened since then and why, I haven't a clue.
In those days it was easy to become a Husky dealership out of your shop/garage. I suspect all that's changed. Back then it was very easy to get Husky parts.

Maybe at some point Husky NA decided that those states were not that important to them.....I dunno.
There was a saw shop in Montrose, CO(Don's Shop), that was a Jonsereds dealer and I got Husky parts through him as well.

It's all about service & parts......always has been. Once that dries up or goes sour, the saw brands disappear from the area.

The original Jonsereds pro saws were fantastic in almost all respects. Sometimes quirky and left you scratching your head, but sturdy, reliable and hard working, always. After they became Husky clones, don't understand the loyalty other than the paint. Like GM trucks versus Chevy;you thought you were getting something different, but you really weren't. There were a few exceptions like the 2094..... which was not just a red clone of the 394.


Kevin

[Spike60]

Yup, 910 parts disappeared a long while back. 

[Al_Smith]

I've only worked on one J-red in my life and forgot the number but if memory serves it was 49 cc and a real good runner for a 3 cuber .Something simple like a carb rebuild and some work on the chain tightener if memory serves .The young man that had it was from Centerburg Ohio and was done with college and heading home to help put out, ready for this .  600 acres of soy beans and 900 of corn .Then after that cut up the tops of 100 white oaks sold off for veneer .Obviously not from a poor  farm family. 

[DHansen]

Picked up a 162 se today.  Price was too good to leave it behind.