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Started by weimedog, January 31, 2011, 10:31:30 AM

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weimedog

Quote from: HolmenTree on March 25, 2011, 10:37:13 AM
I just carry my scrench in my back pocket like I have for the last 37 yrs. I like the short Husqvarna screnchs, they don't poke a hole in the truck seat .

Willard. :D

You may be right :( One thing I always do when working from the tractor or quad..is keep sharp objects OFF my person if at all possible. If I misstep off the tractor or take a spill off the quad (roll it, have it come over on a steep hill, etc) The less things tied to me the better! Don't want to fall and have that scrench stuck into places it doesn't belong! A hold over from Motorcycle trail riding protocall I guess. But I can always learn..:)
Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

SawTroll

I mostly use a Husky scrench in the woods, and a Stihl one in the yard or by the car.   :)
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SawTroll

Quote from: Cut4fun on March 24, 2011, 07:46:32 PM
Nikko I will post pics later in the other thread. But mine is a Black tag 268 SE with 268xp on the recoil.

I guess that is one of the few 268SE saws I have heard of!   :)
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weimedog

Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

Cut4fun

Naw mine is the real deal with metal brake handle and all.  :D :D

weimedog

One of these saws built from that parts pile is now my 272XP CS2CS...(Chicken Chit 2 Chicken Soup) and I finally got it where I wanted (the one with the red neck muffler mod I posted earlier in this thread)...had to replace the bar oil pump and the tank vent. Both were non functional....so after a few days of general work did the load testing to see if it would survive. Noodled a bunch of hard maple blocks that are in the 2ft dia range. Ran a tank of fuel thru it doing this type of cutting...good running saw, returns to idle when I put it on the ground after a hard pull for a couple of minutes.weather on its side or up right...and the plug check showed I still have it a bit rich..but its going to stay that way for a while.


Noodling 2ft Dia. Hard maple


Plug check..how I fine tune my saws. Tweak to a light brown over time..tested by shutting the saw off in a loaded cut.


Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

Cut4fun


weimedog

Are you going to muffler mod that saw? That's a tight fit that muffler can inside that 272XP top! Or is that an optical illusion? One of the things I want to try is blend a larger carb. The standard ID is around .75in. I have a few from big Partners that are a hair over .8inch. Wonder if a mild port massage, muffler mod, and blending one of those carbs would make enough of a difference to be fun. What B&C setup are you going to use? Stick that thing in some wood and get a few pics!
Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

Cut4fun

She's that tight and probably going to melt some plastic. Time will tell.

Top says 268 husqvarna on top decal and XP on back  ;).    8)




Cut4fun

Quote from: weimedog on March 31, 2011, 11:25:31 AM
What B&C setup are you going to use? Stick that thing in some wood and get a few pics!

20"-24"  and 16" occasionally.

I'm actually going to make some video's of the 268/272, 2171, JD800V = Echo 8000, MS660, 028 super, Poulan 505 415 3750 365, 026 pro, and any other saws I get in trade or rebuild before the test for comparison sake. Only the 026 will be wearing .325, it dont like 3/8 at all. Rest will try and run same chain on in 3/8  round chisel.

SawTroll

Quote from: Cut4fun on March 31, 2011, 11:35:37 AM
She's that tight and probably going to melt some plastic. Time will tell.

Top says 268 husqvarna on top decal and XP on back  ;).    8)
.......

The most interesting with that saw of your is the it says 268SE on the number tag, and XP anywhere else. At this stage, I believe most 1987 268xps mistakenly said SE on the tags.... :)
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Cut4fun

Quote from: SawTroll on March 31, 2011, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: Cut4fun on March 31, 2011, 11:35:37 AM
She's that tight and probably going to melt some plastic. Time will tell.

Top says 268 husqvarna on top decal and XP on back  ;).    8)
.......

The most interesting with that saw of your is the it says 268SE on the number tag, and XP anywhere else. At this stage, I believe most 1987 268xps mistakenly said SE on the tags.... :)

Just a fluke you guys were talking about SE XP and I just happened to take one in on trade and never noticed it till you and spike was talking about it on the chainsaw repair site.  I went out to get some parts for the guy and picked the saw up of the floor and what do you know. The SE XP saws you guys were talking about.

SawTroll

Yours were made week 47 1987, the first year of the 268 - but the XP designation was not new at that point. I also know about a similar saw, made week 35 that year.......
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weimedog

Put the 272XP CS2CS to work today...think I squeaked a clutch bearing..dumped some oil behind the clutch/sprocket and it shut up. Going to tear things down to see how everything held up to a day and 4 tanks worth of noodling. Kind of curious. The plug check showed a nice brown plug so I bet all is well internally.

Here's one tank's worth...

Started with this..


Ended with this!
Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

Cut4fun

Quote from: weimedog on March 31, 2011, 08:01:41 AM


What's the story on that air filter you have on that saw? I like the idea of it better then the   black plastic box with air filter inside.

weimedog

I like it better as well...the filter was in the "Junk pile" I guess 272's came that way. AND BTW that saw went thru a major transformation today...

Up to this point, other than the "Red Neck" muffler mod, the 272 "CS2CS"  (Chicken Chit 2 Chicken Soup) has been stock and assembled with all the stock gaskets. It's been put to the noodles test and has a fair amount of cut time is long cuts....a reliable saw. But boring.

SO.. I resurrected a toasted After Market 272XP cylinder that had died a "wolfs head" 10w40 motor in 5 year old gas death! So it was cleaned up and ground on with a die grinder & carbide tool to get to where you see it in these pictures. A practiced eye will see immediately the several differences from the OEM cylinder that came off. (The OEM cylinder is going to visit an ultra sound cleaning tank and after a bath get introduced to a brand new OEM piston....and will go on which ever of the modded CS2CS saws that dies first! Oh...and i also did a more radical mod on a open port 268 CS2CS..but want to run it for a while before I embarrass myself online with pictures of it....they will come later..if it actually run well. It got carb mods, some port timing changes, and a muffler mod my typical pipe way. Really curious how that 268 CS2CS goes relative to this 272Xp CS2CS!)


.I'll post pics along with some tips to quickly change cylinders on that series of saw..I've got it down to 1/2 to swap cylinders on that one.

Here goes....some pics relative to the 272XP-CS2CS!
Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

weimedog

Pulled the standard 272XP Cylinder off and put a mildly modded one on..just to see if the grinding bears some performance fruit..


A peek at the exhaust port Widened and Chamfered...that's really it. Also matched the exit to the "Red Neck" modded muffler.



Transfers


Intake..(Widened a little but not past the piston skirts internally)


Exhaust...also widened internally a bit..nothing radical!
Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

weimedog

Also cut the extra length of the screws holding both the throttle plate and choke plates off...(hope it doesn't get sucked into the motor!!!)



Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

weimedog

Some assembly tips:


I assemble the intake right to the cylinder so there is a better seal between all the components...also easier to do when everything is accessible!



Then I rotate the crank so the piston is in effectively TDC position..furthest out. Then I stuff a screw driver in the flywheel to hold it there, put my 1194 on the case & cylinder base and last but not least put on the ring compressor.




Just slide on the cylinder/intake assembly....(Remember, I'm a one man show; so there are no extra set of hands!)


Remove the screw driver and ring compressor (rotate it so you can pull it out the front side after the cylinder is over the rings on the piston)  and seat the cylinder in the case..that's it.
Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

weimedog

Couple of other things...

1) It is SO much easier to just pull off the covers and handle bar to get at stuff.
2) I used the Red neck muffler mod I had posted a while back...and I usually fill the muffler flange with brass (brazed on) and then file flat to get a really good seal...expecially on those old bent up mufflers!
3) Tip the saw on its side to start the cylinder screws!!1
Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

weimedog

Today they both get "noodle" tested...on 2-3ft dia hard maple. They either thrive or cook!
Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

Cut4fun

Quote from: weimedog on April 09, 2011, 12:19:28 AM
I like it better as well...the filter was in the "Junk pile" I guess 272's came that way.

See if you can find a part number on that filter we are talking about.  smiley_thumbsup

drilldog

pretty new to the forum & dont get much time to enjoy it with working out of town & all. i was reading about your air filter & it happens that my saw guy has a couple of NOS K&N filter set ups. I run one on my Husky 61 with a muffler mod. they were made by performance connection & come with a blue cover. (add some more color to that Husqred). if you would like i can get some pics of it posted. just a thought, thanks.

Cut4fun

Quote from: Cut4fun on April 10, 2011, 11:42:01 AM
Quote from: weimedog on April 09, 2011, 12:19:28 AM
I like it better as well...the filter was in the "Junk pile" I guess 272's came that way.

See if you can find a part number on that filter we are talking about.  smiley_thumbsup

WD, I found all the part numbers to put the hd filter set up which was for 268 too and posted them in my husqvarna 268xp 272 thread at chainsawrepair.  8) 8)

weimedog

So a year later how did those saws turn out? I put a summer on the 272 and its now over at my Brother In Laws...solid performing saw. The surprise was this 268 open port. Its was slightly modded, opened transfers & exhaust,  tweaked intake as well. It runs easily as well as the 272 with a livelier feel to it....and almost 40 tree over the last month have really put it to the test..its still building compression and just runs better every outing..




Hauling another log cut by that little 268



Husqvarna 365sp/372xpw Blend, Jonsered 2171 51.4mm XPW build,562xp HTSS, 560 HTSS, 272XP, 61/272XP, 555, 257, 242, 238, Homelite S-XL 925, XP-1020A, Super XL (Dad's saw); Jonsered 2094, Three 920's, CS-2172, Solo 603; 3 Huztl MS660's (2 54mm and 1 56mm)

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