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[Jeff]

I want to apologize to any of you that may have seen the nastiness on the forum a bit a go. Kevin quickly deleted it. We have a disgruntled forum member that is unhappy with me because I kept after him about not following the rules that the rest of you do without thought. He made a post last week about it and said he was leaving. I could tell he was the type  that may cause problems so he was banned. Well there is no way to absolutely ban someone short of setting the forum up to where I have to approve new members.
He got around the ban and posted some ugly stuff. I contacted his ISP and they will be warning him. I am not going to give out his name or user name unless he gives us more trouble. The forum has been a pretty much trouble free place, even a sanctuary at times from the crap you find other places, and its to bad that someone has to try to screw up what you other members have built. I will not stand for such activity and will do everything I am able to do to stop it, including legal action.

Shame on him.

[Fla._Deadheader]

Thanks Boss. All the Moderaters do a wonderful job. Makes a great place to hang out. ;) 8) 8)

[sawman]

  Keep up the good work guys. You do have a nice place here.
Seems like there is always someone to try and mess things up when you got something good. Thank you for having this
site up and going. I have really learned alot here and still have alot of learning to do. Thanks to all again for making it happen.

[Kevin]

This site has been sanitized for your protection

 ;D

[Corley5]

  I missed out on the nastiness again.  I hear about it on occasion but have yet to witness such thing here.  You guys are right on it.  Excellent job 8) 8)  Thanks  

[chet]

I thought I got a wiff of Clorox.  ;D  Thanks guys.

[Frank_Pender]

That gives you a good idea of what SOME youngens have for attitude.  :-/ Thanks, Jeff and company for getting it straightened  out.  8) 8) 8) I too am/was a no nonsense person, especially in the classroom. ;D   Sometimes I recall what  some of them tried and still find that I can let my blood flow a little faster. >:(

[Bro. Noble]

I'm glad we do have some young members with good attitudes and a will to learn and participate.  Being an ill mannered jerk is unrelated to age.

[EZ]

The only nice thing about someone doin the nasty on here is it shows others that there wasting their time if they want to try something. Thanks Jeff and all you other Jeff's. :D
EZ

[Jeff]

We do have other young folks on here that we can really be proud of.

[Texas Ranger]

You being one of them, but good go to the management.

[etat]

Jeff, sometimes I think I may be posting too much but I enjoy it here and like everybody.  I'm in and out a lot and this place just seems to kind of let me unwind.  Just so many down home type people here, seems most of you know each other to some extent or another, and you never know what someone is going to say next.  I would like to say again, thanks for letting me join.  Thanks for running such a clean, fun, and informative place.  If I ever do offend, and I promise if I do it won't actually be on purpose, please feel free to let me know and I will cease and desist.  This is just too nice a place, and the ocassional bull and bantering that is all in fun is part of what makes it so.  The only thing that I can see wrong at all is the lack of lies, tall tails, and bragging.  Everybody is just so dang serious all the time.  
 Seriously though, and I think everybody here must agree, this forum couldn't be as good as it is without really good people seeing after it.  Good folks attract good people.  Thank you.

[Jeff]

cktate, we are all glad you joined. I have been enjoying your thoughts.

[chet]

Hey cktate, come on up to da forum piggy roast next summer. Ya meet dis bunch in person ya jist might change yer mind.   :D   :D   :D

[etat]

who, what, where, when?

[chet]

Da piggy roast       https://forestryforum.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=travel;action=display;num=1063650137;start=20#26

[Duane_Moore]

 8) you gentlemen run one heck of a good forum, thank God, keep it up, you have all my suport,   Duane,,   but poor piggy, ya gona cook him? ;D ;D

[etat]

Nah Duane, they's gonna probably gonna give that lil ole pig  a decent burial, like it outa get.  In the ground over a hot bed of coals.  Last year one of them scumbag boyfriends of my daughters come over, (I think they're all scumbags,grin)  and I met him with a shovel and told him to re dig out the hole.  Told him we was gonna roast us a pig.  Kid just didn't have the stomach for the sacrificing so my daughter never let him come back.  Hey ya ll wanna know the easiest way to skin out a pig, or a goat, or a deer, or a beef, or a buffalo.  Warning: anybody with queasy stomachs stop here, wouldn't want to ruin yer meal, After ya cut it's throat and bleed it out take a air compressor and one of them needles like you blow up basketballs and foot balls.  Take a sharp pointed knife and poke a hole just through the skin.  Stick that needle in the hole, kinda plug it off with your finger, and turn on that air compressor.  Doesn't take much air.  That skin'll separate and blow up like a balloon.  Sometimes if it's something big like a beef or a buffalo you might have to punch more than one hole.  It'll break that hide loose from the carcass and when you actually start removing the skin it'll come off about a hundred times easier.  Again, sorry for the long post and getting off on a whole different subject.

[Norm]

So.... that's how a football was invented. ;D

[Corley5]

And we always pulled hides off with the chainfall ;D.  Sounds intriguing 8)

[Gus]

This is a sanctuary of sorts. Wonderful place to stop at the end of a long day.
Thanks guys

[Mark M]

CK - I thought you were going to tell us to inflate dat pig to 32psi while he was still alive and then slap him on the butt and he would just jump out of his skin :D

[Fla._Deadheader]

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Stan]

I thought you just tied them hides to the trailer hitch on your pickup truck, and drove off with it.  8)

[oakiemac]

Hey, I can still post. It most not of been me that was banned! :D :D

[dail_h]

   Thanks Jeff

[craigc90]

I will second that. THANKS JEFF.
I have never felt comfortable about posting on forums till I found this place. The way I type and spell people could make fun of me Ha Ha. But nobody has ever said a word here.

[Bro. Noble]

Craig,

I think it's normal for sawmillers and loggers and foresters to type and smell funny ;)

Now as far as not making fun of you-------that can taken care of :D :D

[Norm]

Ya know Cktate I'm going to have to give that a try. Hogs are the worst to skin out. Almost as bad as squirrels. I usually just tie em to the front end loader, tie em off and lift it up. Works great for everything but piggers.

Probably more information than most folks wanted to know. :D

[Duane_Moore]

 :D ya skin em???? ya don't eat em with the feathers on??boy am I all mixed up now.,, Duane ;D

[etat]

Norm
, try it, it'll amaze you.  Now, squirrels are easy and fast if ya know how.  Gonna tell ya how to skin em. I learned from my GRANDMOTHER once long ago.  They don't skin like other animals.  Right in the center of the backbone make a cut with a sharp knife.  Don't cut too deep.  Don't cut all the way around. The cut should be about a inch or so long and sideways to the length of the squirrel.  Work ya fingers under that slit, one hand toward the front, the other hand toward the tail.  Pull.  The hide'll strip plumb to the end of the feet which you then cut off.  I've seen folks eat squirrel brains scrambled with eggs for breakfast, not my favorite.  My favorite is to boil a few of those squirrel's til the meat can be separate from the bones with the fingers.  Take them strips of squirrel meat and have the wife cook ya up some squirrel and dumplins, use a lot of pepper.  Good eatin.  Again, sorry for the off topic post.

[Buzz-sawyer]

I have always had a lot more trouble skinnin beaver and coyote...(particularly yodle dogs)...have to literally cut skin off...
bout squirrels...I used to skin the tate way but bout 20 years ago started making a cut under tail...stand on tail then pull up on front feet...skins all but hind legs in 3 seconds...
Don

[beenthere]

Seems to be close to the way I skin squirrels, but after I make the cut under the tail, I then cut just through the tail bone. Then I stand on the tail and pull on the back legs. End up with just the tail and the skin loose down over the head and the front legs. Then, while still standing on the tail, just grab a pointy piece of skin at about the 'belly button' position and pull the skin off the rear quarters. Seems years ago I saw a drawing of how to do this, and it has worked well for me (that is when I don't cut clean through above the tail on the first cut :-[ ).

Maybe I should try pulling on the front legs while standing on the tail, but seems to me I wouldn't get very far.  :

[Kevin]

I can't imagine them getting very far once you let go of them!  :D

[Stephen_Wiley]

WOW  talk about making lemonade out of lemons.

I have not looked at this thread for several days........as the subject matter was a fore-gone conclusion.

But hand it to CKtate for making this thread interesting again.  Skinning animals with an air compressor. :D :D :D

As soon as I read about the squirrels ........my mind wander back to college in Iowa, my first year they decided (the college administration) that enough students were going home for christmas that they would shut down the cafeteria.

One other fella and myself being short on cash, decided we would feed ourselves from the birds , squirrels running in the woods of the campus.

After a long chase we managed to bag one squirrel,.with nothing but an electrical warming plate to cook him on.    :

The more we chewed the more rubbery and bigger the piece of meat got.   :D

I figure we must have done just about everything wrong that you squirrel consiuer's would tell us. I suppose to get the meat tender you must have to shoot um while their asleep.

[Norm]

Thanks for the tips, cktate I skin squirrels the same way but I still think their tough to skin out in comparison to other stuff.

Stephen your story reminded me when we went camping as a kid. Shot a couple of squirrels and decided we would cook them in the campfire. Wrapped em up in a couple of layers of aluminum foil and threw em in the campfire coals. Fire was probably hot enough to melt lead but we didn't know any better. Figured a half an hour they'd be done. That meat was so tough I imagine I now know how it would be to eat shoe leather. :D

[Kevin]

You think squirrels are tough to skin, try a beaver sometime!

[Tom]

I wouldn't touch that with a 10' pole. :D

[Fla._Deadheader]

        ;D

[Duane_Moore]

  Don't touch it Jeff, He'll get ya, skin a beaver,  ok, skin a coyote, ok,   Duane ;D ;D

[Mark M]

Hey - I tried that skinnin squirrels with the loader trick and it snapped that little sucker right in half. The first try just pulled his tail off. :D

[Stump Jumper]

need pictures or drawings or sumpin :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Gus]

Mark,
I think there's a trick to it. :D :D :D :D

[Gus]

I wonder if a guy took a battrey operated air compressor on the trap line if ya' could air up them beaver and bounce 'em back to the pickup. That might take some of the work out of beaver trappin'. ;D
Gus

[Kevin]

You might have something there.
I remember some talk about beaver hoops.

[Buzz-sawyer]

Gus...I am affraid ifn you took the work outaa beaver trappin ...then there would be nothin left!...Meaning beaver trappin is all work...and I love it!

[Kevin]

Buzz;
Are you clean skinning or rough skinning and fleshing?

[Stan]

It don't matter, Kevin, there ain't been enough money in 'yotes to make skinnin' worth doin' in about 30 years.

[Buzz-sawyer]

Hey Kevin I always clean skin....then a little bit on the fleshing beam too ....around ears eyes...etc.
I was going to say something earlier bout how much I like to eat them...but thought better of that... with the ten foot pole present ;) ;)...didnt want to seem off colour....I like them as much as deer if not more...

Stan
 was getting pretty good money for yodle dogs just the other day...(1986)(bout $50 red fox was $100!!)  that was the last year I trappped proffessionally
Don

[etat]

Tired, real tired.  Got slapped again today, hard.  Over the years a lot of bad stuff has happened to me.  Way worse than what a person should supect.  Always been lucky after the fact.  Things turn out.  Happened again today.

This morning I was thinking about telling my methods for roastin a pig.  Close to the same as what I read somewhere here a while back.  Maybe just a little different.

My parents life a quarter mile down the road.  As I've said I'm finally building a house.  They come by and check the progress, if there is any every day.  Just about the time I turned the computer on this morning my parents drove up.  I had one crew out working, and needed to go check on a couple of other jobs.  I asked if they wanted to ride along, and of course they said yes.  Before we left they wanted to see what I got done on the house last night.  I was up late, late, trying to finish some sheetrock upstairs.  There's two bedrooms up there, stairs coming up in the middle and gonna be a bridge over the stairs with rails connecting the two rooms.  The bridge ain't there yet, just a 18 inch aluminum walkboard.  Mother and pop comes up, and dad cross the walkboard.  Mother walks straight off without looking down even though she has been up there dozens of times before.  She feel almost straight down 10 feet.  Bounced once off the stairs and hit the floor on her back.  The stairs are curved.  Wife callin the ambulance I'm checking on her.  Dad wants to get her up.  I said no way, she hit too hard and right there on the end her head slammed against the floor.  All day at the hospital dozens of test.  x=rays and cat scans.  NO BROKEN BONES, NO HEAD INJURY!.  She'll be sore a while.  I am so thankful.  I don't know how I could have ever lifed in that house if she'd of been bad hurt.  She's a tough old bird, 66, slim build, and still thinks she can do anything.  Heck, I'm a lot like her.  Hope I didn't ruin the thread, just needed to talk.  She's back at home now and I'm sure she'll be ok when she gets over the soreness.  She has too.  Yall that pray throw a word in for her now and again.  Maybe later I'll tell ya how I bury that pig if you're intrested.  I really enjoy herarin yall talk.

[Fla._Deadheader]

   Don'T believe I'd allow Momma back up there till it's done.  Glad she ain't hurt bad.

[Tom]

She's in good hands.  I talked to "The Man" awhile ago and he's proud as punch of her.  Seems there was a bet goin' on about the size of wings she was gonna need when she's transferred.   ;D

[Kevin]

That's some bad news followed by a lot of good news.
She's very lucky.

[Jeff]

there aint no such thing as ruining a thread when yer in need of saying sumpthin or knowin sumpthin. In this case Im glad you had a place to say sumpthin, and were all glad to know that Mom is doing O.K.

[Corley5]

That was BAD but it could have been a whole bunch worse.  Glad to hear she's gonna be fine.

[Mark M]

That's too DanG close Glad she is OK.


Gus you could take a bicycle tire pump. ;) I used to help my friend trap beaver when I was a kid. I didn't like those lice and bugs that were on them. Do all beavers have them or is it a regional thing?

[chet]

That is a very bad fall, your Mom is a lucky lady. Hope she is up and about shortly.

[Stephen_Wiley]

CK,

Glad to hear that your moms injury's were not what they could have been.

Your bridge design reminds me of a couple log homes I have been in and one house that I helped build. Always have liked that open feel it creates.  

[Stephen_Wiley]

Gus,

I think that is called  "Beaver Basketball"  they are playing down the road from us about an hours drive.

(OSU Beavers)

[Norm]

Boy CK I'm glad to hear your Mom is Ok. When I started reading I thought the worst but sure glad to hear she's not hurt bad.  

[etat]

I want to thank everybody for the kind words.  Mother said to thank yall too cause I told her what yall said.  When she fell my heart bout stopped, but my body kept movin.  I guess one good thing is hard headed kinda runs in the family. Right now she's gone to town!  Said she had to get out and work out some of that soreness!  Recon I'm gonna strive to be just as durn stubborn as she is when I get that old.  If I make it that is.  I got up this morning and fixed that hole.  I didn't get the bridge built. But I did drag some 6/6 timbers up there and floor it with plywood temperary.  Saw a picture of a bridge over on the timber framin forum, a rough picture of an arched bridge.  That's what I'm going to build when I have time. Havn't yet figgured out what I'm gonna use for the arches though.

[Fla._Deadheader]

C'mon now, SURELY ya got some "arched" logs you can use : : ;D ;D ;D

[etat]

I wish I did!  One thing I did do one time.  I was, oh about 9 or 10, I'd heard about a tree somewhere growed in a knot.  Hadn't ever seen one so I decided to grow me one.  Went out in the woods, found me a little tree, and tied it in a knot.  Harder to do than you'd think.  Only grew about three years before it died.  I guess it choked itself to death.  If I had enough time I'd pull me a couple in a arch and let em grow awhile!

[Gus]

Kripes ck, musta been a good ticker test for all youse. Glad to here she's workin' out the kinks already. Sounds like a real pistol, that one.
Gus

[Percy]

I been dropdead busy for the last few weeks and chek in only occasionally but I gotta tell ya, this thread is aproppriatly named ;D. Irate posters,Mamas fallin ten feet(no disrespect intended,glad to hear she's doin good), and skinnin critters with compressed air :D :D.
Just a suggestion but maybe this thread could be stuck at the top so when ever someone has a 'Problem" we could post it here.....its been a great read so far ;D ;D

[etat]

Yeah, she's pretty tough.  Told her one time when they got this cloning down pat I was gonna have myself cloned so they would be two of me.  Like to took my DanG head off.  Said she was SO happy I wasn't twins.

Florida, ya have had me looking at crooked trees all day.  Near bouts got my neck kinked from twistin around and looking while drivin down the road.  Wife's been yellin at me all day, "Watch where you're goin".  If ya did have a crooked tree, how in the world would you shape it out so you had a pair of them that matched.  Or, is there a easier idea?

[Don P]

Glad your Mom is OK CK. My wife's Mom tried the same thing this summer but only about a third as far, she's 80. I have been making decks, slowly stepping down to the drive so that when need be I can make small ramps to get her into the house. Anyway, she comes out to do the ooh ahh and walks right off the end, hits the rider and got generally banged. We begged her to let us take her to the ER, you can tell Dutch but you can't tell 'em much :D, she was up and around a coupla days later.

Have any of you tried the garden hose skinner? Same way, small slit insert and inflate...the first water balloon coon?
I tried it on a deer but it didn't seem any easier than just takin its coat off :-/.
Ya'll do know what a coon a** air compressor is?

[Fla._Deadheader]

Down here, they knock the hide off of the squeezin fruit, with water. Small nozzles penetrate the hide and squirt water underneath it. Falls right off without bruisin the fruit ;D

[Duane_Moore]

 ??? dare I say, case out a coyote, skin a beaver, then  stretch and scrape,   this should get me called  dumb,, Duane ;D

[Kevin]

I take my coyote hides off with a come a long.
Rough skin beaver and flesh them on a round beam.

[etat]

Link:  http://www.airskinner.com/Photographs.htm

[Ed_K]

 Well it's two days till Christmas, and the ol 83 dodge decided to die  :'(. Guess thats just the way it go'es. Its may end up as parts for the prosesor  :-/.
 Ed

[etat]

Ed, sure hate to hear about the dodge.  Musta led a hard life dying at such a tender age.  Hope ya give it a decent sendoffl! ;D

[Ed_K]

 Well if that weren't bad enough, the 1 ton dodge gave up low gear in drive today  :'(. To make it go I have to shift to 1st then 2nd, then drive  >:(. Wonder how long that will last till it quits all together.
 Ed

[DanG]

Ed, it's not too late to send a letter to Santa asking for a new truck. You'll have ta send it Fed-Ex Next Day Air, though. Fortunately, Jeff-B is picking up all the Fed-Ex tabs with his credit card. Just another example of the man's unending generosity to ForestryForum members. ;D

[etat]

On that letter, be sure to specify a FORD!!!!!!! 8) 8) 8)

[Duane_Moore]

 :D :D :D FORD''''''  some people give POOR ADVICE....  now read my lips   CHEVROLET.. or  #1 uh know  see the U.S.A. in your chevrolet... Duh  Duane ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  sorry the old Dodge Brothers quit ya.  they was good ol trucks. oh yea . cktate. I got a few old Fords around, hard to find parts for. specialy the coil boxes that the wood is still good on, and the comensers are hard on them new fangled battery things, still like the mags better,  then the water pumps on the newer ones, Two of um  behind the fan, and use them for motor mounts, not a better Idea, and the distriburator behind the fan also? goodness, but that Stromberg 97 what a carb, like that, and this newer Ford has a  Automatic trans in it, they call it a FordMatic, really a borg warner, but a good radio,  lets see ifin I keep this 1951 Ford Victoria for 50yrs I might get it paid for,  $ 1485.00---  buts it's a V8----- that will be 2001. then it's mine.    well good news guys,  ITS MINE, clean title, ain't ya proud of me??? said I couldn't do it, guess I showed ya.  Duh.  Duane ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  1923  T roadster, 1940 coupe Deluxe, 1951 Victoria, 1954 F100. 1923 T bucket  

[etat]

 :D :D :D Duane, what ever you said, well it sure made me laugh, and to tell ya the truth, thanks, I needed that.  Either way, the worst thing I hate about an old chevy is you have to keep a couple of cases of oil in the back at all times.  I killed a few of em afore I wised up.  Now I got nothin against a dodge, they's good ole trucks.  But ya take a chevy, let er run low on oil and well, ya done killed er dead.  Let an ole ford run low on oil, and it'll flat tell ya from the valves chattering that ya need to restock the ole crankcase.  I like me a vechicle that don't mind talkin back to me druther than just rollin over and playin dead. Now I've got me one of them new fangled f250 diesels.  Mostly just kinda dropped in my lap a few years ago.  Best powerstroke of luck I've practially done ever had me in my whole dad gum life.  I could tell ya how it happened, but it'd probably make ya cry. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[Duane_Moore]

 8) 8) ;D   only two cases, thats good one  IT'S A KEEPER,  thanks cktate,  take care you guys, 8) 8) 8) 8)    Duane